Warren said that theirs would be “the kiss heard round the world”
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9,10 (KJV)
Laodicean church pastor Rick Warren appeared in Congress with pop icon and outspoken homosexual Elton John on Wednesday to ask for more money for AIDS research. They were clearly having such a good time that they started holding hands as you see in the photo below.
After taking their seats at the witness table, the giddy pair laughed and smiled as they held hands, with Warren saying “Amen” and cautioning Elton John that if they kissed it would be “the kiss heard ‘round the world.” Is Rick Warren trying to tell us something here, is there a “coming out” moment in his future? Hard to say at this point, but sure looks like it.
Such is the state of the professing Christian Church in 2015, weak, powerless, and effeminate. Elton John, the man who has worn more wigs and dresses than Marilyn Monroe, we expect this from. But Rick Warren claims to be a minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Here was his perfect opportunity to lovingly and graciously tell not only Elton John, but all of Congress that without being born again they will die and go to a Devil’s Hell. But instead, he holds hands with a gay man, and jokes about kissing him. It was a joke, right?
“And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.” Revelation 3:14-16 (KJV)
Rick Warren is the perfect representative of the Church of Laodicea in the last days.
So to Elton John, if you are reading this, I lovingly invite you to get saved and believe the gospel that Jesus Christ was crucified, died, buried and rose again on the 3rd day to purchase forgiveness for your sins on the cross at Calvary.
And Rick Warren, if you are reading this, I extend the very same invitation to you as well.
Last days indeed…
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Apostate Pastor Rick Warren And Elton John Hold Hands In Congress, Joke About Kissing Each Other
These men are here attempting to get financial support for Aids research/treatment. Why must we find fault with them on this occasion? So what if they are holding hands? They are in agreement on their objective, and that is absolutely okay. Neither are making a religious or theological statement other than they stand in agreement to address Aids. Good for them. More Christians should do the same, IMO.
NO, this is NOT ok! Two men holding hands is “not ok”. Rick Warren says he is a minister of the gospel. Would Jesus do this? Never in a million years. But what Jesus would have done is told Elton John that, unless he got saved, that he would burn in a Devil’s Hell for all eternity. My own brother died of AIDS in 1988, I am not unsympathetic to the plight of people suffering from it. But Rick Warren says he is a minister of the gospel! This is not only an embarrassment to Christianity but in this moment Rick Warren shows you who he truly is. A fraud.
Geoffrey, I believe you are absolutely wrong on how Jesus would have responded. There is not one verse in the gospels where Jesus ever told any sinner they would burn in a devil’s hell for all eternity if they didn’t repent. He said if they didn’t repent they would perish. Have you never held hands with another man in a show of solidarity for an issue? How about in a prayer circle? Think real hard now before you answer. And if you did don’t tell us that’s different, because it isn’t.
John, Legalism is it’s own hellish environment.
Grace through faith in Christ must also abide in a circumspect
behavior – What would Jesus Do?
The answer is clear!
John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
1 Peter 1:14-16 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
The Lord is still building His Church
All are not asleep
LWToday – Serving Life
You are wrong my brother. Jesus made it very clear many times, even to the people he healed, that if they didn’t stop sinning something worse would happen to them…hell, where “the worm never dies and the fire is never quenched.”
If you believe the Bible and the words of Jesus you cannot deny that hell awaits unrepentant sinners. I put the scriptures on hell in a little writing below:
http://followingjesuschrist3.com/2014/12/28/hell-and-the-wrath-of-god-almighty-what-do-the-scriptures-say/
You are one lost puppy if you think all sinners that don’t repent won’t go to hell plus rick warren is an apostate and he shall surely perish for teaching another gospel and also for guiding the sheep astray plus supporting chrislam.
Jesus dealt with SIN. That’s WHY He came to earth. He didn’t go before political bodies or rally for social issues. HE CAME HERE TO SHED HIS BLOOD FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SIN!!!!!
Of course He was compassionate, but Aids or Leprosy or whatever the illness is is a RESULT OF A FALLEN WORLD. THAT’S why Jesus came to earth. To show us the way back to the Father.
Some of you are beyond belief!!!!!!
Rick Warren is a WOLF and he is leading MANY to hell.
Good on you, Geoffrey, for exposing this!
If Jesus met with Elton John, He would tell him about his sin of homosexuality, and then He would show him the way to redemtion.
His last words to Elton John would be GO AND SIN NO MORE!!!!
I agree with you whole heartedly. I believe that your response is absolutely true and correct to a certainty according to the Scripture.
We’re admonished to “stand in the gap,” not lay down and roll around with the dogs.
All i can say is UGH,me i’ve never cared for his music. And its not because he’s gay,just never been a fan. He had a nice looking wife at one time,don’t know what happen to her.Thanks for sharing Geoffrey and Geri.
Amen Geri:) I completely agree with your comment!
Maranatha!!!
2 Timothy 3:1-5King James Version (KJV)
3 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
homosexuality is the reason for aids in the first place for the most part except for some exchange of drug use.
rick warren should be telling Elton john the facts and expose him and his lifestyle for what it really is.
And Elton Johns words back to Jesus would be “Judge not lest ye be judged” right before Elton was cast into hell.
That is the homosexual mindset.
We have no record of Jesus ever speaking with a homosexual and likely that is because Rome put homosexuals to death.
John,
Sure sounds like you are an Emergent church person and probably a Christian Universalist (they believe that no one will burn eternally in hell)
You are deluded and most likely not saved.
You need to repent and trust Jesus for the forgiveness of your sins. You also must believe the words spoken by our Lord. HELL IS REAL AND PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT REPENT AND TRUST JESUS FOR SALVATION WILL BURN IN A FIERY HELL ETERNALLY!!! If Elton John does not repent of his sinful living and agree with God that he is a sinner, in need of a Savior, he will die and burn in hell for all eternity. THAT IS THE TRUTH.
Get out of the social gospel which is a lie from Satan himself!!!
“You are deluded and most likely not saved.” It is inappropriate for you to say such a thing about me or anyone else. You are behaving like the typical intolerant leftist who refuses to address the issue. Instead, you go for the ad hominem attack. That doesn’t make what you say true in the least. It just shows you are an angry person with an internet podium to attack those with whom you disagree. May I suggest you read 1Corinthians 13:4-5. Park and meditate on ” (love) is not rude”. When you begin to temper your articles with kindness and forbear the rudeness your message will have greater appeal and readership.
Geri,there can be no jewish Christians.
Rabbi Ben Zion Bokser wrote, “This is not an uncommon impression and one finds it sometimes among Jews as well as Christians – that Judaism is the religion of the Hebrew Bible. It is, of course, a fallacious impression. . . Judaism is not the religion of the Bible” (Judaism and the Christian Predicament, New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1967, p. 59).
Rabbi Moshe M. Maggal, President, National Jewish Information Service wrote: “. . . you will notice the great difference between the Jewish and Christian religions. But these are not all. We consider the two religions so different that one excludes the other. . . we emphasized that there is no such thing as a Judeo-Christian religion. . . . There is not any similarity between the two concepts” (Letter of August 21, 1961).
And the jews are not true Israel!
COULD THE MODERN JEWS BE ISRAEL?
http://israelect.com/reference/ArnoldKennedy/Could%20the%20Modern%20Jews%20be%20Israel~.pdf
“YOUR FIRST NIGHT IN HELL”
http://thepropheticnews.com/2013/12/18/your-first-night-in-hell/
Thank you for being daring in your faith John to stand up and be a voice for truth. Far too many Christians are following the herd and listening to false teaching. Most I ask if they have ever met Pastor Rick, no. Have they heard any of his teaching, no. Have they attended his church, even read their statement of beliefs? No. There are great consequences for false accusations and speaking out against a brother or sister in Christ. If we are wrong about another we are speaking against Christ himself as we, true believers, are His body. Stop the hate and start living as Christ lived, loving people into the kingdom. Time is short. If there is hate in your heart, it is time to repent and examine if you are truly saved. As the Bible says, we are known by our fruit. Matthew 5:9 NIV
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.
Mindy YOU are NOT saved if you think that you can simply believe whatever you want and be able to call yourself a Christian. Next you will be telling us that Mormons, and Jehovah Witness’s are Christian as well. Just because someone claims to be a Christian does not mean that they are.
Rick Warren believes, and teaches many things that DO NOT line up with the Holy Word of God. Rick Warren has a anti-Christ spirit, as he is a pusher of the satanic doctrine of Chrislam. Rick Warren is a Tarr among the Wheat and a wolf in sheeps clothing.
I am a unapologetic Christian who believes in the TRUE gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. I am not afraid to say that JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY, and if you are NOT born again, than you are headed to a place called hell.
Islam is not true, Mormonism is not true, JW is not true, Wicca is not true, Christian Science is not true, Buddism is not true, Hinduism is not true, etc.
ONLY JESUS CHRIST SAVES. THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO BE SAVED AND IT IS THROUGH JESUS CHRIST.
You need to open your eyes Mindy, and get saved because where it stand right now you are not.
Why Rick Warren is a false teacher:
https://shepherdguardian.wordpress.com/2013/10/30/heresy-alert-rick-warren-may-be-a-false-teacher/
You can LOVE people right into hell.
God would want his followers to stand against what’s wrong! And do it in a mighty way. Homosexuality is one of the worst sins imaginable. Therefore we must speak against it with profound show of intent! Not back down like cowards…
James 4:4 New International Version
You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
Please only use the KJV when posting on here, thanks! The NIV is not the Bible…
John,
Please see Matt. 25:46 and Rev. 14:9-11 and REv. 21:8
John, you are flat out WRONG or are a liar.
Jesus spoke of hell more than heaven!
Matthew 10 KJV
“And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell” – Jesus peaking about not fearing MAN who can only kill your body but fear GOD who can kill both body AND your soul in hell!!!!
Luke 12 KJV
4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
Mark 9 KJV
42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
Those are just a few examples.
BTW, if you are using a Sodomite made NIV, NLT, ESV etc, it is no wonder. Since those new age perversions removed “HELL” about 50 times from those scriptures. As well as removing all instances of Sodomite, abomination, reprobate, etc pertaining to homosexual sin.
JOHN……U HAVE TO BE BORN AGAIN TO ENTER THE KINGOM OF HEAVEN. AND THE YOU MUST READ YOUR BIBLE PLEASE. READ IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN UNTIL YOU FINALLY GET IT OK!!!!!!! IT’S PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT IT IS SAYING AND NOT PASS SUCH THOUGHTLESS REMARKS. ASK GOD TO LET YOU GET BORN AGAIN PLEASE. PRAY PRAY FOR UNDERSTANDING, YOU LACK IT.
John, you are trying to deflect truth here. burn in hell – what does scripture actually teach about sinners IF they do not accept Christ. Full truth here not a slight of hand revision please. Why did Jesus ask all followers to teach and preach what he taught and preached. He loves people and wants them to not end up in hell, right?
as for holding hand in a prayer circle with men – why would you even raise such a smoke screen issue?
John, you are wrong. Jesus DID say to repent . I don’t know what Bible you have read, but my Bible has many scriptures where Jesus says to repent or they will not see Heaven which means they will go to Hell. Read Luke 13:3,This next one comes from Peter in Acts 238. Acts 17:30 from Paul. In Revelations 2:5. Only the first one came directly from Jesus but keep in mind these were his disciples and they taught what he told them to teach. Also keep in mind the Bible comes from the words of God and if you call them liars, you are calling God a liar and he DOES NOT LIE! There are other instances but I figure those are good enough for someone who does NOT know his Bible and is ignorant of God’s word.By the way God would not have liked two men holding hands nor kissing on the mouth. The Bible is against such things as same sex marriages and it is a sin to have sex outside marriage. Besides, Rick Warren is an evil man and is teaching Chrislam which is a lie. You cannot combine Christianity and Islam together. They are not the same.He also says there are many ways to Heaven and you do not need (Christ to get there. That is a total lie. Without Christ saved and baptized in water)and repentance of sins, there is no Heaven for sinners. They go to the lake of fire with Satan. I read my Bible daily, so I know what it says. Next time, don’t say something unless you have proof to back it up. Otherwise you are being totally ignorant and have no clue of what you are saying.
I agree that two men can hold hands in solidarity. And I think that too much might be being made of this. Although I certainly hope that at some time, Pastor Rick told Elton John about the Gospel.
But if you think Jesus didn’t talk about Hell, you are kidding yourself. He talked much about it. “Perish” refers to eternal death in the Lake of Fire.
It’s like watching satan and Jesus hold hands. Rick Warren is a fake!
Geoffrey has obviously never been to India or other South Asian countries – where, strangely, two men holding hands IS OK.
Jeff,
When did you get born again? Can you tell us how that experience went? How has your life changed? What church do you attend?
~Geri
Hi Geri,
I was born-again in 1983 as a result of the faithful witness of a Christian colleague. At the time I was 30 years old, alcoholic, hooked on prescription tranquilisers and living a very immoral lifestyle.
Over a period of years Jesus delivered me from drink, drugs, sex and gave me a brand new life, a loving wife and 3 great kids.
I have served him in the church here in Wales and in Christian mission ever since, attending Bible College and Discipleship schools at the beginning of my Christian life. I am currently an associate pastor in a Baptist church and UK leader of an intercessory prayer ministry. I am also a national representative of a Christian organisation working with Christians who have same sex attraction issues – trying to show them a Biblical way of life.
I think what I find most offensive about some of these posts is that they are mostly based on a picture. Those posting have no idea what rick warren has said to Elton john publicly or privately but they arrogantly assume they know and castigate him on the basis of their own imaginations. It is also quite evident that many posting get a kick out of being rude to others – (in the Name of Christ. As Jesus said to His wayward disciples – ‘you know not what manner of Spirit you are of’. You counsel people to read the Bible – I would counsel you to read it with the help of the Holy Spirit and ask the Lord to open the eyes of your heart to His truth. Some folk here have seriously unresolved anger issues that need to be brought to the cross.
Hope this answers your questions. Jeff
Not only do I agree with your position in this article, I, too, lost a brother to AIDS in 1988.
I am truly sorry for your loss, was he at least saved?
Dude… guys used to kiss each other all the time back in those days, so holding hands aint no biggie – you dig?
NOPE, we diggeth not.
Well dig this: none of this matters because as Jade Helm clearly shows, we are getting ready to be taken over by the US military and lose all our freedoms anyway – including the freedom of religion. Nobody, I repeat… NOBODY… can save us. Either give up, or hold hands with your brothers to fight this great evil.
http://www.infowars.com/confirmed-jade-helm-is-for-the-american-people/
Its not just the ‘holding of hands’ that is a red flag. Its the fact that Rick Warren is supposed to be a Christian preacher who SHOULD teach the truths in the Bible about the sin of homosexuality. The Bible is clear the the sin of homosexuality leads to hell and preachers should follow God’s word rather than pander to the lusts of the world.
EXACTLY. If Rick Warren really was (saved) a pastor, as he was holding hands with Elton he would have said “you really need to get saved or you’ll be holding hands all alone in Hell”.
Jesus never threatened anyone with hell He only warned them of it. You threaten an enemy but you warn a friend. Everyone is a friend of God some just don’t know it yet. Did Jesus separate himself from sinners or did he embrace them? Did He live for His reputation or did He give it up and make Him self of no repetition for us? Jesus died for all men but we have lived at the expense of men. How can you be a light if you never go into darkness. Jesus loves Elton Jon just as much as you. The same Jesus that died for you and I died for Hitler and every other person on earth. People loved Jesus and thousands would take off to follow Him for days without food. They did not understand anything He said cause He spoke in dark parables and sayings but His words were doing something inside them. People had to be around Him cause He was love and everyone wants to hang out with love. It’s not our job to clean people up its the Holy spirits Job. Our Job is too love. Maybe Elton John hasn’t become a Christian because He has never seen God in anyone who has claimed to be one. Maybe all He has heard is turn or burn. The world will know Him by our love for each other, and maybe Elton doesn’t know God cause He views God by us who claim Jesus by our judgments and opinions. Are we better then Elton cause we earned what we have because we lined up first? No! It’s Gods grace that saved me. I was such horrible person before Jesus found me. We are to regard no man in the flesh. I’m against no man. If Elton knew who God really was don’t you think He would switch sides? Jesus was willing to wash the feet of His disciples even when He knew they would all run out on Hiim. He knew before the last supper that even one would betray Him and one deny Him yet He broke the bread and poured the wine and His hand didn’t tremble and His lip did not quiver. And He called them friends. Jesus would of gladly helled Eltons hand and Elton would become a believer. This whole campaign has nothing to do with promoting homosexuality or adultery. It’s about raising money to heal people. when Jesus was returning to Jerusalem with James and Jon and had to pass through Samaria they encountered Samaritans that were insulting and slandering Jesus on the way they. James and Jon asked Jesus if they should call down fire from Heaven to burn them up. Jesus looked at them and said you do not know what spirit you are of. Jesus said I came not to condem or destroy but to save the world. Hope this helps shed some light on the Fathers heart and His love for us.
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Jr, Your post has the Holy Spirit all over it. Thanks for sharing His truth.
Thank You! and Amen
Jesus definitely threatened that sin would lead to hell.
MATTHEW 5:30 “And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.”
Jesus may have dined and spent time with sinners but he sure didn’t support their sinful nature. That is the reason why Jesus said to the adulterous woman: Go, and sin no more.
I understand that we should love our brethren, especially the lost. But righteous love does not equate to supporting sin. Homosexuality is an abomination to God. Warren had an opportunity to lovingly teach the truth of the Gospel but he opted to joke about kissing another man and even held hands with him knowing that such an act would show that he supports homosexuality. As a preacher he is accountable for all of his actions. Telling the truth of the Gospel is what should have been done instead.
Thank you brother in Christ, the Spirit and the Bride say COME!
Geoffrey i totally disagree with what you are trying to say, if i may remind you, there is the story of The ALABASTER BOX in the bible. that lady not only annointed jesus’ feet with expensive oil but also kissed his feet too. Jesus dinned with filthy sinsers.Lets stop judging other people. it might have been just a slip of the tongue.
When the blind lead the blind–both fall into the pit. (paraphrased of course) Who we ARE has everything to do with what we profess. Rick Warren is a hypocrit, professing to stand for God’s word. Would you hold hands with Hitler to fight the mosquito problem in Germany?
He is holding his hand not having sex with him….omgosh
Sucorra, when were you saved and what church do you worship the Lord Jesus in, may I ask?
2 Corinthians 6:14 says it clearly “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?”
We as Christians are to be separated from the world and from sin. Warren may not be having sex with Elton John but he sure is showing support and solidarity with him.
You are completely wrong. First of all, Warren is an apostate and a new age agent with an agenda to destroy conservative Christianity.
Why is he there in the first place? A pastor should be teaching the gospel and visiting orphans and widows. This man is not a pastor, he is a new world order marxist agent of change.
Do you understand that, John? He is not there because he is a doctor or a social worker. He is not an infectologist or a scientist. He is there just to show his church support for the gay cause. This is obvious. It is a political game.
Marcos……..AMEN AMEN AMEN & AMEN!!!!!
TRUTH! Its not the holding hands itself that is wrong. Its the connotation of it and the fact that Warren, as a preacher, should be telling the truth.
Marcos, I thought he was there to lend support for combating Aids. “He is there just to show his church support for the gay cause.”. Guess I missed that part.
Right on!
It is by this appearance that the “political game” is proven.
We (Christians) can and do raise money for AIDS but we do it without the fanfare.
I agree to a point. One part I don’t like is the writer trying to make it sound like Warren is gay. Very childish. We aren’t to hate anyone, Warren is putting plenty of coals on his own fire. He isn’t interested in speaking the truth when it comes to scripture. We can give the message of Salvation without being rude. http://danbel.webspawner.com/thelordsroom/
“We aren’t to hate anyone.” I think King David, the “apple of God’s eye” may take offense to that were he here. He stated-“Do I not Hate those who hate thee?” Why? Because they hated God by disobeying, and hating His perfect Laws. I don’t understand why people think that God’s Laws are horrible. They are loaded with benefits-healing, deliverance, financial prosperity, peace of mind, unity, love for the brethren,etc. God said He was the same yesterday, today and forever. If sodomy was a sin then(and it was) it is today, and an abomination. Christians who agree with it, well, maybe you need to reread what He said about it.
Agreed John, Pastor Warren does not condone Elton John’s life style. He is there to raise money for aids research, to which he and his wife have given much already. For this writer to even suggest Pastor Warren is gay is absurd. If Grider gets into heaven with such an attitude, I look for him to be standing in a corner with his nose to the wall for a few thousand years for being so negative.
Mike,
When did you get saved? How has your life changed since your being born again. What church do you attend? If you were to die tonight, and God asked why He should let you into heaven, what would you say?
~Geri
Friend,
If you had done research you would find out that aids was created in a lab, and the antidote was, also. So, all the finding the cure is false, raising money is true.
My feelings are that we pray for those that are lost, but we have to realize that there are also agendas that play out, whether financial or spiritual and that there are those that for personal gain and other reasons support these agendas.
We certainly have known very kind and generous people in different situations that have come up short, and it is the preacher or pastoral care that makes a difference.
If we were talking about another form of addiction, then we would have mercy, but mercy is under grace until decision is made. Not easy in any case, but a pastor that doesn’t understand the difference between mercy and judgement isn’t really preaching the gospel that sinners get salvation, but to ignore is certainly upon the pastor.
My prayers are for those that struggle. If they are not struggling perhaps they have made a decision. That is God’s business, but we are given the grace to have discernment about prayer and what our prayers cover, yet the Lord looks at the heart and knows everything in it, we don’t.
Bless you.
NO JOHN! It is NOT ok!
Rick Warren is a apostate preacher and pusher of the damnable, satanic doctrine called Chrislam. Rick Warren is leading many people astray, and is also pushing the one world religion that is prophecied of that will happen in the end times. The “Great falling away” is happening right now, and Rick Warren is pushing this with what he is doing. This is Bible Prophecy happening right now!
You left out that Rick was also joking around with Elton John that if they kissed it would be the kiss heard around the world. This shows that Rick Warren is also ok with people practising Homosexuality. Rick is walking hand in hand with the devil, while trying to convince the gullable that he is walking with our Lord. It’s blasphemy and you need to open your eyes John and see Rick Warren for what he is. A wolf in sheeps clothing, and a tarr among the Wheat.
Guess what? There is a cure for AIDS already. Just don’t participate in this filthy, disgusting act in the first place.
what does it benefit a person or group to gain the whole world and lose their souls? Many seem to hold something, some aim or goal or thing of this present world above eternity and truth and the things of God and that is very sad for them…hope people wake up.
would it be ok to never tell a drunk he’s on the wide road that leads to destruction but instead joke around about getting drunk with him and how that’d be the scene shown around the world ha ha..? Ok to sit with the voodoo priest and joke about getting together with him in some false god worship?, ok to tell him he worships the same father just in his own way..?! These are the things being done..if one thinks it’s fine then sad for them, their wrong and needs to repent and turn back to Christ and the whole council of God.
It’s not love to say nothing to the blind as they wander towards the edge of the cliff.
You miss the point, John.
Lobbying for funding to end a disease, while support the cause of the disease, is counter productive.
It’s all for show. Warren wants to be loved by the World and the World loves him.
Rick Warren is a false prophet.He has preached to many people and told them that there is more then one way to get to heaven.The truth is,there is only one way,Jesus Christ.He is leading people down the wrong path.
For Warren to make a joke(“kiss heard round the world”) about a sinful lifestyle that is abhorrent in the eyes of God is wrong. What message does this send? That sin is a laughing matter? Jesus would never have joked about something as serious as sin which affects one’s eternal destination.
First of all, they are not men; they are perverted reprobates who hate the truth and love their homosexuality. As for being in agreement, so was Hitler and the third Reich for the most part. Both are in fact making a political and religious statement and it is one that take people straight to hell where they belong. Why are they trying to save alive those who deserve to die while allowing little babies to be killed in the womb? These two perverts would rather mock human life by protesting in favor of animal rights.
Anyone who stands with these perverts is not a Christian any more than Bill Clinton or the current Muslim in Chief. Gods wrath is coming soon and it will be so devastating that even Sodom would blush.
When “alternative lifestyles” overtake the host culture, the host will die and take the “alternative” culture with it. Attempting to “equalize” these subcultures simply because MOMMY DEMANDS her little ….. CREATION …. be “accepted” does not change the fact they are non-viable SUB-cultures
Where is the TOLERANCE for the belief systems that built the Civilization.Show me the homosexual civilization. When the “alternate” lifestyle becomes mainstream,civilization DIES. The parasite cannot live without it’s healthy host body.
John, have you ever heard of the phrase ”come out from them, touch not the unclean thing, separate, and I will be your God”. Please go and memorise that verse,.
Christians should never condone this blatant disrespect for God and his spoken word against Homosexuality! If you do, then you are not a follower of God…God holds homosexuality as an Abomination! And he showed his hate for it by destroying Sodom and Gomorrah!!!
Elaine – I suggest you read the Bible if you think that’s why Sodom & Gomorrah were destroyed. Very clearly stated that their sin was being inhospitable.
Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?
raising money for the very disease that has been spread by people who behave like John. And surely it is not a time to make jokes and act like boys instead of men, well at least one man. John is confused and needs to hear facts and truth not jokes.
Aids is a curse on them, so there will never be a cure no matter what they do and how much money they spend. Its the recompense of the error of there ways and the sin of sodomy against God. you want to be nice person by tempering what you are saying and that’s fine, but it is, what it is. it’s the error of there sins against the most high and there will never , never , ever be a cure. why should there be a cure so they can continue in filth without any errors of there sins. the sodomite community needs the cure so they can continue living in debauchery. For all we know Warren could be a closet sodomite and he is beginning to come out like many other supporters of filth in the so called christian community have done. this is the devils work and if you cannot see it then i will pray God opens up your eyes and ears. Pray that God selects the ones he wants for conversion and they will be able to understand what they have done is a sin against nature and God.