Peter Wehner: ” Why I Can No Longer Call Myself an Evangelical Republican .”

Peter Wehner, former President George W. Bush’s speech writer and senior adviser to Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign, opined in the New York Times on Sunday, ” Why I Can No Longer Call Myself an Evangelical Republican.”

I don’t know Peter Wehner.

But it’s strange; I would have thought that the final straw for evangelical Wehner might have been his boss, President George W. Bush in England in 2003, equating Jehovah and false god Allah as the same God:

EXHIBIT A

Q Thank you, Mr. President, Mr. Prime Minister. Mr. President, when you talk about peace in the Middle East, you’ve often said that freedom is granted by the Almighty. Some people who share your beliefs don’t believe that Muslims worship the same Almighty. I wonder about your views on that.

And, Mr. Prime Minister, as a man also of faith, I’d like to get your reaction to that.

PRESIDENT BUSH: I do say that freedom is the Almighty’s gift to every person. I also condition it by saying freedom is not America’s gift to the world. It’s much greater than that, of course. And I believe we worship the same God . (11/20/03)

EXHIBIT B

Or as if that weren’t enough, Laura Bush’s deceit and hypocrisy from 2000-2008 — keeping quiet through two presidential campaigns so her husband could be elected and reelected; and misrepresenting her position on same-sex marriage and abortion:

First Lady Supportive of Gay Rights and Abortion Rights — not Michelle Obama, but Laura Bush!

EXHIBIT C

Or Ken Mehlman — former White House Political Director, former Bush/Cheney 2004 Campaign Manager, and former RNC Chairman 2005-2007 — who paraded himself (once he left Washington, DC) as homosexual and led the amicus brief advocating homosexual marriage, in the Obergefell vs. Hodges case, before the Supreme Court in 2015.

Karl Rove and Ken Mehlman framed the BUSH/CHENEY 2004 reelect on “Family Values” as they placed same-sex marriage bans on the ballots in AR, GA, KY, MI, MS, MT, ND, OH, OK, OR, and UT.

Following the Bush 43′ reelection victory we learned that the showcasing of “moral virtue” by the BUSH/CHENEY 04′ campaign was a ruse. Machiavellian to the core, “Political expediency placed above morality and the use of craft and deceit to maintain the authority and carry out the policies of a ruler.”

Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee led the Arkansas initiative. He emailed me following the 2004 charade:

“Looking back, we all now know we were played for chumps as we led sincere efforts to pass Constitutional amendments in our states (I led one in 2004 that won by 70%), only to now realize that those running the White House didn’t respect or even agree with the principles involved – just knew it would drive voters to the polls and help turnout and win.”

EXHIBIT D

Or Cindy McCain advocating for homosexual marriage in 2010, after her husband was the Republican presidential nominee in 2008. Why didn’t she say this when her husband was campaigning for President in 2007-2008?

You see the pattern here, one thing they all have in common — like candidate Barack Hussein Obama at the Saddleback Presidential Debate in 2008 — deceit, so as to be elected:

Obama: “I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian-for me-for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. God’s in the mix.”

Warren: “Forty million abortions, at what point does a baby get human rights, in your view?”

Obama: “Well, you know, I think that whether you’re looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity, you know, is above my pay grade.”

It speaks to character: veracity — “habitual truthfulness”.

As to Peter Wehner, a “NeverTrumper”, he has become so obsessed with Donald Trump that, like a drunk, it has impaired his vision. Wehner cannot see the real crisis, which would be there even if Trump wasn’t, and that’s the reason the New York Times accords him that perch, as a ” dupe of Secularism.”

There is good news; Gideons and Rahabs are beginning to stand.

David Lane
American Renewal Project

 

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Rick Warren’s Heresy And Lies Are Further Unveiled ~ Compiled By James Sundquist

II. RICK WARREN’S SHAPE DISCOVERY 301 CLASS BASED ON CARL JUNG’S PERSONALITY THEORY:

Proof:

And here is proof that his SHAPE Personality Profile is based on the foundation of Carl Jung’s Personality Theory he obtained from a spirit-guide named Philemon (published in two conservative Christian Theological Journals):
https://procinwarn.com/james-sundquist/
(see color charts)

And here is the article:
http://njiat.com/JunePDFs/Personality%20Profiling_Jungian%20Analysis%20of%20Rick%20Warren%27s%20SHAPE%20Personality%20Profiling.pdf

But this can be verified by a number of sources.

III. 2017 UPDATE ON RICK WARREN’S GLOBAL PEACE PLAN
RICK WARREN/KAGAME GLOBAL PEACE PLAN ALLIANCE

Now there are 196 countries in the world. Rick Warren identified Purpose Driven Countries, based on his list of even potential Purpose Driven Countries from above list, is twelve nations. 12 divided by 196 = .06 or 6% of the world’s countries that would be in Rick Warren’s matrix. Again this is assuming that every single country on his Global Peace Plan is, or has gone Purpose Driven Country. The only country that is in reality listed as an official PDC Country is Rwanda, which has now rejected him, and the Rwandan Embassy in Washington D.C. Confirmed on March 16, 2017, said there is no official connection to Rick Warren’s regarding calling Rwanda a Purpose Driven Country. Also see:

“according to AfroAmerican Network sources in Kinshasa. … We praise God for the fact that Rick Warren has not been in Rwanda for a while,”

https://www.afroamerica.net/index.php/world/598-american-pastor-rick-warren-no-longer-wanted-by-god-and-by-general-paul-kagame-in-rwanda-says-rwandan-inter-faith-head

http://glpost.com/kagame-is-left-with-four-godfathers-preacher-rick-warren-jumped-ship/

SUMMARY OF PURPOSE DRIVEN COUNTRY CALCULATIONS:

Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven Countries Percentage of earth by square miles = 8%

Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven Countries Percentage of earth by population = 14%

Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven Countries (12) Percentage of total number of countries on the earth (196) = 6%

Do these figures constitute a Global Peace Plan to you?

And, like Warren’s boast about his PDL book sales being the best-selling hardback book in history, which raises the obvious question, who was second in sales, likewise, which country is the Second Purpose Driven Country, if Rwanda is First? Fifth? 54Th? Where is there a list? If there is such a list, it would be a list of one, at one point, but now would be zero. The fact is that the truth and the true number of Rick Warren Purpose Driven Countries percentage is closer to zero percent. Now one of my close friends once told me many years ago when I was touring the country in concert ministry when I was discouraged about concert attendance. He had both the wisdom of being a Christian songwriter and concert minister himself, but grew up in a legendary Gospel music singing family. I will never forget what he said to me: “Which is better, ten thousand screaming fans, or one whole person from your music ministry?” This edifying word of exhortation is something I will never forget. The point here is that the Great Commission and ministry is not a contest. The Apostle Paul rebuked Christians in Colossians for doing this. But it is Rick Warren that has turned this into a contest in his so-called God’s dream for him and God’s dream for you, with his Global Peace Plan. So where in Scripture does it tell us that God dreams? Is this God’s Dream, or God’s Nightmare? Rick Warren compares his Global Peace Plan to Nehemiah’s Wall. But Nehemiah succeeded in his righteous act of building the wall around Jerusalem. Warren tries to call Nehemiah’s building of the wall a “vision”. Really? Who’s vision? There is nothing in the Book of Nehemiah about a vision. The Prophets Moses, Ezekiel, Micah and Daniel had visions, clearly recorded in Scripture as such. Nehemiah did not! Then Warren would have us believe that God gave Nehemiah a dream (to build the wall). I challenge everyone out there to do your own search in the Book of Nehemiah, and show me one verse where the word “dream” even occurs, let alone that God gave Nehemiah a dream. So not only did Rick Warren get the facts wrong about the Book of Nehemiah, he has misappropriated what applied only to Nehemiah for himself and applied it to the Church today! This is also highly presumptuous that his Global Peace Plan is for the the entire church, not just his church or Purpose Driven Network. Read the entire book for yourself. Rick Warren wrongly presumes that his Global Peace Plan is from God. It should be obvious at this point that it could not have been from the Lord. Warren’s wall has collapsed…total failure! Warren’s wall more closely resembles the Walls of Jericho, than it does the Nehemiah’s Wall. Rick Warren is no Nehemiah. Numbers, Numbers, Numbers as he boasts with both his book sales and number of countries he as recruited or hopes to integrate into his Global Peace Plan! And it has been more than a decade since he launched this Global Peace Plan, and this is all he has to show for it? (Using his argument, not mine!) What a track record! And what a contrast what the Macedonia’s would have had in their report on the Apostle Paul vs. Rwanda’s report on Rick Warren! And what a model for Rick Warren to call RWANDA the “NATIONAL MODEL” for his entire GLOBAL PEACE PLAN? (This is nothing against the nation of RWANDA or its people, but Warren’s own catastrophic failure of his own Global Peace Plan blueprints for the total of 196 nations on the earth (the Globe)). In fact, let’s look more closely at what Rwanda really thinks about Rick Warren:
Rick Warren’s first Purpose Driven Country, Rwanda, has virtually rejected him. See:
http://www.holybibleprophecy.org/?s=Rwanda
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There was a story that just ran in Rwanda in September 2016, documenting that his program there has completely collapsed.
Here is the story:
http://www.therwandan.com/blog/kagame-is-left-with-four-godfathers-preacher-rick-warren-jumped-ship/

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IV. LATEST RICK WARREN / ROMAN CATHOLIC ALLIANCE:

V. ELLIOTT NESCH FILM DOCUMENTARY INVESTIGATION OF RICK WARREN:

BESTSELLING NON-FICTION HARDCOVER (BACK) BOOKS IN HISTORY RANKING LIST: 1)TITLE 2)AUTHOR 3)NUMBER OF SALES 4)RANKING

The following list was recently compiled by James Sundquist, thusly refuting the lie of Rick Warren’s claims that the “Purpose Driven Life” was the greatest selling non-fiction book ever.  Mr. Sundquist spent hundreds of hours researching the following data:

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BOOKS IN HISTORY-  RANKING LIST-  1)TITLE   2)AUTHOR   3)NUMBER OF SALES 4)RANKING

BIBLE HOLY SPIRIT 6-8 BILLION 1 A COLLECTION OF QUOTATIONS FROM CHINESE CHAIRMAN MAO ZEDONG MAO 6.5 BILLION 2 QURAN (MUSLIM KORAN) MOHAMMAD 3 BILLION 3 RED BOOK (QUOTATIONS FROM CHAIRMAN MAO TSETUNG) CHAIRMAN MAO 800 MILLION 4 XINHUA ZIDIAN CHINESE DICTIONARY MAO 400 MILLION 5 CHAIRMAN MAO’S POEMS MAO 400 MILLION 5 (TIED) BOOK OF COMMON PRAYER ANGLICAN CHURCH 300 MILLION 6 COMMUNIST MANIFESTO KARL MARX HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS 7 BHAGAVA GITA UNKNOWN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS (TIED) 7 FOXE’S BOOK OF MARTYRS JOHN FOXE, W. BERRY 150 MILLION 8 BOOK OF MORMON JOSEPH SMITH 140 MILLION 9 GUINNESS BOOK OF WORLD RECORDS GUINNESS 123 MILLION (2012) now 138 10 JEHOVAH’S WITNESS: “THE TRUTH THAT LEADS TO ETERNAL LIFE” WATCHTOWER 107 MILLION 11 THE GREAT CONTROVERSY ELLEN G. WHITE 100 MILLION 12 THE THREE PREPRESENTATIONS JIANG ZEMIN 100 MILLION (TIED) 12 THE AMERICAN SPELLING BOOK NOAH WEBSTER 100 MILLION (TIED) 12 THE WORLD ALMANAC THE NEW YORK WORLD 80 MILLION 13 THINK AND GROW RICH NAPOLEAN HILL 70 MILLION 14 BETTY CROCKER COOK BOOK BETTY CROCKER 63 MILLION 15 STEPS TO CHRIST ELLEN G. WHITE 60 MILLION 16 THE MCGUFFEY READERS WILLIAM MCGUFFEY 60 MILLION (TIED) 16 MERRIAM-WEBSTER COLLEGIATE DICTIONARY GEORGE AND CHARLES MERRIAM 55 MILLION 17 YOU CAN HEAL YOURSELF LOUISE MAY 50 MILLION 18 THE COMMON SENSE BOOK OF BABY AND CHILD CARE BENJAMIN SPOCK 50 MILLION (TIED) 18 THE HITE REPORT SHERE HITE 50 MILLION (TIED) 18 BETTER HOMES & GARDENS NEW COOK BOOK BETTER HOMES & GARDEN 38 MILLION 19 (TOTAL = 24)
PURPOSE DRIVEN LIFE RICK WARREN 32 MILLION (2012) 36 and 48
SOURCES (COMPILATION): PREPARED 2017

Zondervan (Harper/Collins) and Rick Warren would have us believe that 32 million sales of his PDL book make his the “bestselling nonfiction hardback book in history” when is takes hundreds of millions of sales to even make the top ten in history, and billions of sales to be #1 or #2. Furthermore, George Slowick, the President of Publishers Weekly totally disavows the claim that Warren and Zondervan attribute to PW.

Rick Warren’s (and Zondervan’s) Public Relations firm issued this false advertising press release which you likely also received, believing it to be true:

“After 10 unprecedented years as the best-selling non-fiction hardback in history, Rick Warren’s The Purpose Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For? is being re-tooled and re-released by Zondervan”
Source: https://www.charismanews.com/us/34357-rick-warrens-the-purpose-driven-life-celebrates-10-years

What this statement means is that you are claiming that the PDL book was also the bestselling book in history in 2002, as the above PR was in 2012, and continued to hold that ranking every year since through 2012. They posted that this book had sold 30 million by 2007. This is an average of 6 million books per year, or approximately 6 million in the first year (2002). So by whose authority renders 6 million as bestseller in history in 2002, and which author was eclipsed, and where is the ranking list which would show that author now #2?

But his PDL book had not even sold 6 million in the first year. Proof:

“By January, 2003 The Purpose Driven Life had sold 500,000 copies and was awarded the Gold Book Award. Just two months later it had crossed the 1 million threshold and was awarded the Platinum Book Award.”

Purpose Driven Life was award the Gold Book Award for having sold 500,000 copies by January 2003, and had sold 1 million by March 2003, by Evangelical Christian Publishers Association (ECPA). But this total pitifully short of being the bestselling nonfiction hardback book in its first year, or any year since. I don’t have an issue with the number of books Warren sold, but not telling the truth about the book sales.

At first I was willing to give Larry Ross Communications the benefit of the doubt, and that they were simply passing on and promoting what Rick Warren and Zondervan were feeding them. But now they know with certainly that this claim is fraudulent and farcical! But the fact is Warren’s book was NEVER the bestselling nonfiction hardback book in history in any year or any of the combined total for all of these years. You must certainly know this claim is fraudulent and farcical! But the fact is Warren’s book was NEVER the bestselling nonfiction hardback book in history in any year or any of the combined total for all of these years.

In this regard, we are both aware of the following Scriptures (that I am confident you agree with):

“…we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:” Isaiah 28:15
“If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: for he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.” 2 John 9-11
Finally, Christianity is about TRUTH and the the Way the TRUTH, and the Life, which is Jesus Christ himself. So to promote falsehood to tens of millions, and training them in it, is the antithesis of Christianity and brings shame upon the Name of Jesus Christ.

This proves with certainty that Warren/Zondervan and PR Firm A. Larry Ross have committed fraud and false advertising, and fake endorsement (attribution).

Sincerely in Christ

James Sundquist

 

I. 2017 RICK WARREN UPDATE ON PURPOSE DRIVEN LIFE SALES CLAIM

For your reference here is what Rick Warren posted this on his Purpose Driven website for his Global Peace Plan website:

Purpose Driven Life is “the bestselling nonfiction hardback book in history” (attributed to Publishers Weekly…meaning number 1):
SOURCE: http://www.purposedriven.com/books/pdlbook/#purpose
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and here it is on Zondervan, his publisher:
http://www.zondervan.com/the-purpose-driven-life-1
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BESTSELLING NONFICTION HARDCOVER (BACK) BOOKS IN HISTORY RANKING LIST:

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I recently received an email from Os Guinness (Guinness Book of Records). He spoke at Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church. He said he teased Rick Warren that the Guinness Book of Records sold more books than Warren’s PDL Book. He would know. But Guinness own site states 138 million sold. They sell 2.5 million per year. So in 2012 that figure would have been about 123 million, when Warren had sold 32 million, when they made their claim they attributed to PW. That is about 7 times Warren’s sales (both are nonfiction). But even 123 million does not make the top ten.
Now for anyone to name their book as number one, it always comes from a list. Where is the list? All other books in top twenty, 50, or 100, lists the book and the number as well as the ranking of everyone who is NOT number one.

Rick Warren’s book is not even in the top ten Christian bestsellers list (a few of these are fiction, so this would bring Warren within the top ten…but his claim is ALL nonfiction hardback books):

“Other than the Bible, which is the far and away the best-
selling Christian book of all time with sales in the billions,
here is my list for your consideration:
The Imitation of Christby Thomas à Kempis (1418) – Sales Unknown, but widely regarded as the best-selling Christian title after the Bible.
Book of Common Prayer (various editions starting in mid 16th Century) – 300 million (estimated)
Pilgrims Progress by John Bunyan (1678) – 250 million
Foxe’s Book of Martyrs by John Foxe (1563) – 150 million

Lord of the Rings, J.R.R. Tolkien (1954) – 150 million
The Hobbit, J.R.R. Tolkien (1937) – 142 million
The Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe by C.S. Lewis (1950) – 85 million
Steps to Christ by Ellen White (1892) – 60 million (estimated)
Ben Hur by Lew Wallace (1880) – 50 million
The Late Great Planet Earth by Hal Lindsey (1970) – 35 million
In His Steps by Charles Sheldon (1896) – 30 million
The Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren (2002) – 30 million
The Power of Positive Thinking by Norman Vincent Peale (1952) – 20 million
The Shack by William Paul Young (2007) – 20 million
The Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri (1320) – 12 million (in last 150+ years)
The Five Love Languages by Gary Chapman (1995) – 10 million+
Jesus Calling by Sarah Young (2004) – 10 million+
Heaven is for Real by Todd Burpo (2010) – 10 million+
More Than A Carpenter by Josh McDowell (1977) – 10 million+
The Prayer of Jabez by Bruce Wilkinson (2000) – 10 million+
The Total Woman by Marabel Morgan (1974) – 10 million
The Gospel According to Peanuts, Robert Short (1965) – 10 million”

Rick Warren and his publisher Zondervan (now Harper-Collins) claim that Publishers Weekly stated that Rick Warren’s is “the bestselling non-fiction hardback book in history.” If this were true, Warren’s book would appear on PW’s own website list of best selling non-fiction books in history. PW does have such a top 25 list, here it is, and Rick Warren is not on it!:
https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/nielsen/HardcoverNonfiction.html

Note in the link that Publishers Weekly uses Nielsen tracking, one of the most reputable bookselling sales tracking and ranking companies in the world. PW can supply you with sales figures for EVERY year since 1998. Secondly, note that on that link PW and the industry at large does not use the term “hardback”, rather they use the term “hardcover”.

For example, you can type in Publishers Weekly site search engine any book such as Purpose Driven Life, or Southern Baptist author Daniel Darling’s IFAITH book:
https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-1-59669-294-7

The printed version of the review in Publishers Weekly shows the page number. In the case of Darling’s book, page 54, and date of the PW Issue: December 13, 2010. Furthermore, you can see that every book review on PW shows the author of the review.

Go to Publishers Weekly search engine to verify anything Publishers Weekly ever said about any book. In other words, if a statement is made by Publishers Weekly about a book, it is in Publishers Weekly.

One more thing here is a statement by George Slowik, President of Publishers Weekly regarding Rick Warren’s statement about his PDL book:

George W. Slowik, President of Publishers Weekly:
“I’ve checked our site which includes all of our content from about 1995.
Also touched base with our religion editors and there is no finding of a
quote like that…We don’t generally use the term hardback.” September 30, 2013 11:33:08 PM EDT

If people don’t believe my report, call Publishers Weekly yourself and ask to speak their President George Slowik or their chief religion editor, Lynn Garrett. Did you ever verify this claim yourself. If not, you should verify this. But I am surprised no one at your church, Warren’s Church, or Zondervan editors never questioned the validity of this claim. Here is PW’s tel. #: 212-377-5705 or 212-377-5703

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A blog entry soon to follow from James Sundquist will examine how Rick Warren used Carl Jung’s Personality Types for his Shape Discovery 301 series, Warren’s Global Peace Plan, and his alliance with the Roman Catholic Church.

Blessings, Pastor Steve

Rick Warren Challenges Christians That They Are Not Fit For The Kingdom If They Study Bible Prophecy

Even Steven

I have no idea what additional proof one would need in order to discern that Rick Warren is a false prophet, pure and simple.  He has the audacity to believe that the Purpose Driven movement is bringing in a New Reformation, hence as we follow this track, his thinking is that he is a modern day Martin Luther.  To Rick, the Second Coming of Jesus Christ and the Millenium are small potatoes, because like Ford, he has a better idea.

Perhaps he envisions himself as a Protestant Pope of some sort, and when he speaks “ex cathedra,” his words supersede Holy Writ.  Rick’s time is spent hobnobbing with Muslim clerics, the Pope, various United Nations affiliates, involvement with a plethora of social concerns, meeting the leaders from all religions, and spending time with an additional assortment of political VIP’s throughout the world.  (This sounds like a purely social “gospel” to…

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Born Again 3

“Ye must be born again.”  John 3:7

“Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”   John 1:13

The new birth does not come through human descent (“not of blood”), nor does it come through human desire (“the will of the flesh”), nor does it come through human determination (“nor of the will of man”).  The issue is, have you put your faith in Christ?  Have you been born of God: have you been born from above?  Apart from this you will never enter the kingdom of God (John 3:3).  Believe on Christ now, tomorrow may be too late.   -W. Ross Rainey

Children of men, attend to the word, so solemnly uttered by Jesus the Lord; And let not this message to you be in vain, “Ye must be born again.”  -William T. Sleeper

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Let us contrast the beautiful aforementioned summary of true salvation with that of Rick Warren, founder of Saddleback Church in California.  The following quotation is taken from page 220 of the Purpose Driven Church:  “Anybody can be won to Christ if you discover the key to his or her heart.”

Sorry Rick, as it states prior to your man centered apostate statement, salvation does NOT come through human desire or determination.  It comes from ABOVE, and you and I are not big enough to find keys to anyone’s heart.  Do not be deceived- Salvation has everything to do with becoming born from above.  It has NOTHING to do with finding keys to people’s hearts.

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Are you a Berean or a Laodicean?  Do you believe the Bible or Rick Warren?  Rick Warren is a litmus test and a referendum of Biblical illiteracy.  Unfortunately he is plum out of line with how one becomes saved – the most important issue that anyone will ever face this side of eternity.  In the following video, John MacArthur succinctly and thoroughly exegetes the scriptures, comparing the impotence of Rick Warren’s “Gospel,” with the true and Biblical Gospel that saves.  Warren totally ignores the doctrine of repentance, without which one cannot be saved.  [Luke 13:3,5 “I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”]  In a mere three minutes, the following video beautifully summarizes what true salvation is, and what it is not:

 

False Prophet Rick Warren Exposed!

These lengthly videos record many of Rick Warren’s false teachings, including Chrislam, his worldwide P.E.A.C.E. Plan, Catholicism, allegiance with the Pope, Mariolatry, universalism, promotion of the New World Order (NWO), his disparagement of Christian Fundamentalists, easy believism, no repentance required and all inclusive salvation, no mention of sin or condemnation, and much more.  Among the authors on these videos are John MacArthur, Phil Johnson, James Sundquist, Gary Gilley and Jack Van Impe.  Rick Warren is a litmus test.  Are you a Berean or a Laodicean?

In Christ, Pastor Steve

 

 

 

 

Beware Of The False Gospel Of Rick Warren

Heretic Rick Warren says active homosexuals are going to Heaven if they “accept Jesus Christ”

 

Rick Warren’s theology would suggest that an active murderer, adulterer, fornicator, sorcerer or homosexual will go to heaven as long as they have “accepted Christ.”  Rick Warren omits the new birth and our new heart.  He avoids the doctrine of repentance like the bubonic plague.  Without repentance, one cannot be saved – Luke 13:3,5 – see this verse below.  His theology is simply a referendum on Biblical illiteracy.

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John 3:3 King James Version (KJV)

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

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Luke 13:3,5  King James Version (KJV)

I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

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2 Corinthians 5:17 King James Version (KJV)

17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

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Galatians 5:19-21 King James Version (KJV)

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

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1 Corinthians 6:9-11  King James Version (KJV)

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

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Revelation 21:8 King James Version (KJV)

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

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Have you ever wondered just how many churches are sending their parishioners to hell since they emulate Rick Warren’s theology?  I mean the Bible is no longer adhered to, studied or believed, and he is considered by many to be “America’s pastor.”  I am truly amazed at the Biblical illiteracy and apathy within the church.  There is the claim that bloggers like myself do not get the facts and run rampant with erroneous conclusions.  This blog site is filled with Warren’s own quotations and theology, and a great deal of the material on him is on You Tube and you can listen for yourself.  All it really takes in order to understand Warren’s apostasy is to be saved yourself, and be a noble Berean, utilizing careful exegesis and study of the scriptures.  But then again, even a baby Christian should understand that an active and unrepentant sodomite is not headed for the gates of heaven.  The annihilation of Sodom and Gomorrah is a barometer of the fate of those who actively engage in this deplorable and wicked lifestyle.

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Here are scripture passages that address the false prophets like Rick Warren, who suggest that since we are saved by grace, we can freely live in sin:

Romans 6 King James Version (KJV)

What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.

20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

King James Version (KJV)Public Domain

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Jude 4  King James Version (KJV)

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

God’s grace has never been a “license” to sin.  When one is truly born from above, their spirit no longer desires for sin to be in their life.

Pastor Steve

Rick Warren Speaks On Christian Fundamentalism

Rick Warren is a man whose teachings take a long time to unravel.  This blog site is filled with a great deal of his apostasy.  Many articles that highlight just a few of his heretical teachings can be found in the category – “Emerging Church.”

This article emphasizes the fact the Rick Warren disparages the Christian Fundamentalists, even comparing them to radical Muslim fundamentalists!  Rick, by the way, envisions himself in charge of the “New Reformation,” which emphasizes deeds and not creeds.  Even though most Christians sense that apocalyptic end time events are soon coming to our fallen world, Rick is going to implement his world P.E.A.C.E. plan.  Never mentioned in his teachings, is the Rapture of the Church, Great Tribulation, Second Coming and Millenium.  Brother Rick has a better idea. Those nasty Biblical doctrines like sin, repentance, and the atoning blood, all bother brother Rick, so he has found that the Purpose Driven Church/Life books, are much handier and easier to believe than those old fashioned and archaic Bibles.  When he does quote the scriptures, he cherry picks only the non offensive passages, and uses whatever translation he can find, that would best convey his intended message.  He blasts born again believers for following the entire list of fundamentals.  According to Rick Warren, fundamentalists not only are legalistic and narrow minded but they are also one of the big enemies and are motivated by fear.  The fundamentals that are very near and dear to me, and the bedrock of my faith, are despised by Rick Warren.  Oh yes, here are the five fundamentals that Rick seems to think only legalistic Christians adhere to:

1)The Deity of Christ.

2)The Virgin Birth.

3)The Blood Atonement.

4)The Bodily Resurrection And Second Coming.

5)The Inerrancy of the Scriptures Themselves. 

 

No, you are right – you cannot make this stuff up.  By the time Rick Warren strips the Gospel of the above fundamentals, the teachings of eschatology, the need to repent, the heavy cost of sin, and the reality of hell, the only “gospel” left would be a generic, down sized one size fits all theology that would offend no one.  The “Jesus” of Rick Warren can be found in any religion – Buddhism, Islam, Hindu, etc.  Rick Warren is a universalist who does not believe in the narrow way.

Matthew 7:13-14  King James Version (KJV)

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

 

 Sometimes his real theology comes out when he makes statements in public, such as telling Muslims:  “What is the matter?  We both believe in the same God.”  Yes, those Freudian Slips are momentary lapses when the truth comes out.  Below are a couple of the many, many articles that highlight Rick Warren’s stance on Christian Fundamentalism.  In His Service, Pastor Steve

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Rick Warren is a Southern Baptist pastor that has had a vast influence in Baptist churches. His Saddleback Church averages over 20,000 people a week. His book The Purpose Drive Life has sold over more than 30 million copies. Even John Piper has praised his theology. Rick Warren is not a leader that Baptist churches should be following. In this post we’ll just scratch the surface on the dangers of following Rick Warren.

Rick Warren has a great distaste for fundamentalists such as myself. Rick Warren says:
“Now the word “fundamentalist” actually comes from a document in the 1920s called the Five Fundamentals of the Faith. And it is a very legalistic, narrow view of Christianity, and when I say there are very few fundamentalists, I mean in the sense that they are all actually called fundamentalist churches, and those would be quite small. There are no large ones.” (The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, Event Transcript, Myths of the Modern Mega-Church, Monday, May 23, 2005)
So if you follow the Five Fundamentals of the Faith you are legalistic and narrow minded. Warren also predicts that fundamentalism, of all varieties, will be “one of the big enemies of the 21st century.” “Muslim fundamentalism, Christian fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism, secular fundamentalism – they’re all motivated by fear. Fear of each other.” (Philadelphia Inquirer, The purpose-driven pastor, Paul Nussbaum, Jan. 08, 2006)

So according to Rick Warren fundamentalists not only are legalistic and narrow minded but they are also one of the big enemies and are motivated by fear. They are no different than Muslim fundamentalists according to Warren. Just so we understand who Rick is talking about let us look at the Five Fundamentals of the Faith.

1. The Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ (John 1:1; John 20:28; Hebrews 1:8-9).

2. The Virgin Birth (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23; Luke 1:27).

3. The Blood Atonement (Acts 20:28; Romans 3:25, 5:9; Ephesians 1:7; Hebrews 9:12-14).

4. The Bodily Resurrection (Luke 24:36-46; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, 15:14-15).

5. The inerrancy of the scriptures themselves (Psalms 12:6-7; Romans 15:4; 2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:20).

I would say any born again believer would follow this entire list. So in essence Rick Warren is blasting born again believers which makes you wonder where he stands with God on a personal basis.

With Rick Warren’s poor grasp of the gospel it is of no surprise that he would sign the Yale Center for Faith and Culture covenant A Common Word Between Us and You. The document states things such as “That this common ground consists in love of God and of neighbor gives hope that deep cooperation between us can be a hallmark of the relations between our two communities.” Muslims don’t worship the same God as Christians (John 14:6). To them Jesus was just another prophet and to consider Jesus as God is blaspheme (Surah 4:171 and Surah 5:731). Another thing the document states is “That so much common ground exists – common ground in some of the fundamentals of faith – gives hope that undeniable differences and even the very real external pressures that bear down upon us can not overshadow the common ground upon which we stand together.” It is ironic that Warren blasts the true fundamentals of Christianity and instead signs on to something like this.

Rick Warren also is in the habit of letting wolves into his church (Matthew 7:15). In 2011 Warren brought in doctors like Mark Hymand and Mehmet Oz into church for his Daniel Plan. His Daniel Plan is to help with the health and wellness of people. If you look though at these doctors it certainly won’t help with the spiritual health and wellness of people.

One of the doctors Warren brought into his church, Mehmet Oz, was voted as one of the 500 most influential Muslims. Oz supports what is called integrative medicine which is combining conventional medial treatments with things like hypnosis and energy healing. His wife is a master of Reiki which is a form of energy healing. Another doctor, Mark Hyman, isn’t any better. He promotes new age medicine and false religious leaders such as the Dalai Lama.

As I said before this just scratches the surface of the dangers of following Rick Warren. We all need to prove all things and hold fast that which is good (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Like the Bereans we need to search the scriptures daily to see what we are being taught is true (Acts 17:11).

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RICK WARREN SAYS CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISM WILL BE ONE OF THE GREAT ENEMIES OF THE 21ST CENTURY

Friday Church News Notes, January 20, 2006 (David Cloud, http://www.wayoflife.org fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143

Rick Warren of Purpose Driven Life fame says that Christian fundamentalism will be “one of the big enemies of the 21st century.” He lumped Christian fundamentalism in with “Muslim fundamentalism” and “secular fundamentalism” (“The Purpose-Driven Pastor,” The Philadelphia Inquirer, Jan. 8, 2006). Thus the Christian fundamentalist who merely seeks to take God’s Word seriously and to live it and to preach it faithfully before his Heavenly Master is as dangerous to this world as a Muslim terrorist or a radical atheist. Warren said that Christian fundamentalism is motivated by fear. One of the many great problems with this statement is that the Bible often speaks of fear in a positive manner. Paul was afraid that the devil would deceive the believers through false gospels, false christs, and false spirits (2 Cor. 11:1-4). We should therefore follow the apostle’s example and fear spiritual deception, both for ourselves and for others. The Bible says pastors who sin should be rebuked before all “that others also may fear” (1 Tim. 5:20). Would that Saddleback Church would take that verse seriously and rebuke their heresy-preaching pastor publicly! Noah is commended because he feared at God’s warning (Heb. 11:7). We are to pass this earthly sojourn with fear (1 Pet. 1:17). We are to save some by fear (Jude 23). May God’s men today fear God enough to obey His Word and to preach the whole counsel of God, to “reprove, rebuke, exhort,” to warn the people of false teachers like Rick Warren. Where, by the way, are the “staunch conservative” or “nearly fundamentalist” Southern Baptist leaders who are exposing their fellow Southern Baptist Rick Warren’s errors? They ridicule men like me for warning about errors within the Southern Baptist Convention, but they don’t lift a voice on their own. Well, I think I will just keep on warning!

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APOSTATE PASTOR RICK WARREN AND ELTON JOHN HOLD HANDS IN CONGRESS, JOKE ABOUT KISSING EACH OTHER

Laodicean church pastor Rick Warren appeared in Congress with pop icon and outspoken homosexual Elton John on Wednesday to ask for more money for AIDS research. …

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Rick Warren and Elton John holding hands, joking that if they kissed, it would be the kiss heard around the world.  Do you think Rick Warren warned one of the world’s most famous homosexuals about the sin of sodomy?  No, that would be legalistic and judgmental.  Rick does not approve of those nasty, narrow minded and bigoted Christian Fundamentalists.  They were on a joint venture fighting AIDS together.

Rick Warren Challenges Christians That They Are Not Fit For The Kingdom If They Study Bible Prophecy

I have no idea what additional proof one would need in order to discern that Rick Warren is a false prophet, pure and simple.  He has the audacity to believe that the Purpose Driven movement is bringing in a New Reformation, hence as we follow this track, his thinking is that he is a modern day Martin Luther.  To Rick, the Second Coming of Jesus Christ and the Millenium are small potatoes, because like Ford, he has a better idea.

Perhaps he envisions himself as a Protestant Pope of some sort, and when he speaks “ex cathedra,” his words supersede Holy Writ.  Rick’s time is spent hobnobbing with Muslim clerics, the Pope, various United Nations affiliates, involvement with a plethora of social concerns, meeting the leaders from all religions, and spending time with an additional assortment of political VIP’s throughout the world.  (This sounds like a purely social “gospel” to me.  It rings of one who, instead of pointing people to Christ, is attempting to bring in the New World Order).  Many of my fellow Southern Baptists drink his KoolAid, only because he is a Southern Baptist.  I have learned long ago, however, that the Bible and its’ precious truth therein, takes priority over the philosophies of men.  
(New American Standard Bible
“See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.”  Colossians 2:8).  Do you believe whatever “big name” leaders say, simply because they sell a lot of books?  Or are you a noble Berean, always searching the scriptures to see if these things are so?  (Acts 17:11).  Rick Warren is severely criticized at every Prophecy Conference that I have ever attended.  Why?  Because he scoffs at prophecy and Christians who cherish end times events.  Sorry Rick, my Bible says there is a crown for those who look forward to His soon return.  Rick is a litmus test and an indictment of the Biblical illiteracy of today’s Christian Church.  Rick has other ideas.  He has a whole inventory of false teachings, here is yet another…

Maranatha, Pastor Steve  <><

From Lighthouse Trails Website…

Highlighted in red are statements that clarify Warren’s false teachings:

Rick Warren Says Those Who Focus on Bible Prophecy “Not fit for the kingdom of God”

By Roger Oakland

Many who were once looking for the return of Jesus have fallen asleep. We now live in a period of time where numerous prominent Christian leaders are telling the Christian masses that paying attention to the signs of our times in light of the Bible is a waste of time. And many of them take it a step further and accuse those who believe what Bible prophecy says about the end of the age of being negative and self-centered.

In the Purpose Driven Life, Rick  Warren was actually laying ground work for the emerging church’s new reformation, a reformation that rejects thinking about the return of Christ and works more at convincing the multitudes that Christ is already in them as a global christ-consciousness. As you will see in the following documentation, Warren has a low regard for Bible prophecy. Perhaps this helps explain why so many who once were anticipating the return of the Lord have become occupied with worldly ambitions. Warren writes:

When the disciples wanted to talk about prophecy, Jesus quickly switched the conversation to evangelism. He wanted them to concentrate on their mission in the world. He said in essence, “The details of my return are none of your business. What is your business is the mission I have given you. Focus on that!” (PDL, p. 285)

I find it simply astounding that a statement of this sort would be in a New York Times best-seller in the present-day Christian book market. Jesus was telling the disciples they could not know the day or the hour, but nowhere does Jesus ever indicate that “the details of my return are none of your business.” Rather than quickly changing the subject, we find in Matthew 24 and Luke 21 two of the longest passages in Scripture quoting Jesus’ own words, and what’s more, where He details the signs of His coming. In essence, Jesus was saying, because you cannot know the day and hour of my return, you need to educate yourself in Bible prophecy and take heed of my words about the end times. Later on, one of those disciples, John, was given an entire book to write on the details of Jesus’ coming. Jesus continually said to be alert and ready for when He returns. In both parables and straightforward talk, he spoke of this. In Luke 12:35-40, Jesus emphasized that it is essential to be prepared for His return:

Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning; And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately. Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching:… And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

And Jesus frequently referred to the Old Testament prophecies. Those prophecies became the evidence that Jesus Christ was indeed whom He said He was–“Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace” (Isaiah 9:6).

But Rick Warren tells readers to think about something other than Bible prophecy: “If you want Jesus to come back sooner, focus on fulfilling your mission, not figuring out prophecy.”

Warren ends this section of his book by stating that Satan would have you “sidetracked from your mission” and by quoting Jesus out of context, saying, “Anyone who lets himself be distracted [by studying Bible prophecy] from the work I plan for him is not fit for the kingdom of God” (Living Bible). But Jesus was not referring to His return when He made that statement, which in the King James Version says: “No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God” (Luke 9:62). The Purpose Driven kingdom of God leaves no room for Bible prophecy, and in fact, condemns those who study it. The apostle Peter, inspired by the Holy Spirit, had a different view. He writes:

We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts. (II Peter 1:19)

Christians are called to witness and be watchmen. No Scripture exists that tells us to ignore the events that have been pointed out as signposts indicating the return of Jesus. If we do, we might be like the foolish virgins who fell asleep waiting for the bridegroom (Matthew 25:1-13).

In light of Rick Warren’s end-time views [and his steady embracing of contemplative authors], what does he think of the emerging church? This statement he made in the foreword of Dan Kimball’s book, The Emerging Church, answers that question. Warren notes:

Today seekers are hungry for symbols and metaphors and experiences and stories that reveal the greatness of God. Because seekers are constantly changing, we must be sensitive to them like Jesus was; we must be willing to meet them on their own turf and speak to them in ways they understand. (p. 8)

Rick Warren is enthusiastic about the emerging church because he believes it is the church of the future. And … the emerging church is equally fond of Warren’s view of Bible prophecy, or the omission thereof, and of his plan to usher in the kingdom of God. (From Faith Undone, Roger Oakland, pp. 154-157)


The following quotes are by those who promote contemplative and/or emerging spirituality and share similar views on the return of Christ:

If you want Jesus to come back sooner, focus on fulfilling your mission, not figuring out prophecy. (Rick Warren, PDL, pp. 285-286)

Tony Campolo says that Christians who “make a big thing of their claim that we are now living in the final stage of church history prior to the second coming of Christ” have been the cause of “extremely detrimental” consequences. They “discount the Sermon on the Mount,” they don’t care about the needy, and they have had such a negative “impact on geopolitics,” which Campolo says “can lead only to war.” Basically, according to Campolo they are the reason the world is in such a mess, and they are holding back progress of a more emerging spirituality. (Faith Undone, p. 160, quoting Campolo, Speaking My Mind)

It is time that the church woke up to its true mission, which is to materialize the kingdom of God on earth, today, here and now…. People are no longer interested in a possible heavenly state or a probable hell. They need to learn that the kingdom is here, and must express itself on earth … The way into that kingdom is the way that Christ trod. It involves the sacrifice of the personal self for the good of the world, and the service of humanity …(Occultist, Alice Bailey)

Robert Schuller’s advice to young church leaders would seem to apply to new apostolic Christians: “Don’t let eschatology stifle your long-term thinking.” (C. P. Wagner, quoted in False Christ Coming: Does Anybody Care?

We are not eschatological Theonomists or Classic Dispensationalists (e.g. Scofield) and believe that divisive and dogmatic certainty surrounding particular details of Jesus Second Coming are unprofitable speculation, because the timing and exact details of His return are unclear to us. (Mark Driscoll, Acts 29 Network

Former New Age follower, Warren Smith explains what happened to him and how he came to understand the significance of Bible prophecy in light of Christ’s return:

Coming out of New Age teachings, I had learned in a very personal way that the details of Jesus’ return are definitely our business. Understanding the events surrounding His return was critical to understanding how badly I had been deceived by my New Age teachings. I had learned from reading the Bible that there is a false Christ on the horizon and that for a number of years I had unknowingly been one of his followers. Because the Bible’s clear authoritative teachings about the real Jesus and His true return had been brought to my attention, I was able to see how deceived I was. By understanding that there is a false Christ trying to counterfeit the true Christ’s return, I was able to renounce the false Christ I had been following and commit my life to the true Jesus Christ. (from Deceived on Purpose, p. 147)

In the Bible in the Book of Revelation, it says that Satan will deceive the whole world (Revelation 12:9). The emerging church movement has three essential elements that are consistent throughout the movement that may help this great deception to occur:

1. The embracing of mysticism
2. The belief that the kingdom of God will be established on earth BEFORE Christ returns.
3. The rejection of eschatology (the study of the end-times and Bible prophecy relating to it).

The combination of these three things could help to bring about the great falling away of which the Bible speaks. We pray that every Bible-believing Christian will be able to comprehend these things and warn their families and loved ones.

“Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.” (II Thessalonians 2:3)

“Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.” (I Timothy 4:1)

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Southwest Radio Ministries Expose Rick Warren

Rick Warren’s Religion of the Anti-christ

Rick Warren has been exposed at every prophecy conference that I have attended.  All of the speakers see gross errors in his theology.  Rick Warren encourages Christians NOT to study prophecy because God did not intend for us to understand these things.  As you can see below, Rick’s time is spent, attempting to bring in the millenium himself, as he reveals his New World Order (NWO) colors through hobnobbing with secular, political and religious globalists from all over the world.  Christians identify the NWO with the Tribulation Period and the reign of the Antichrist.  Rick Warren endorses and is part of the NWO.  His paganism is revealed for all with eyes to see, and the following is yet another slice of his arsenic laden pie.  Warren has removed all doubt about his beliefs from any spiritually discerning Christian who truly examines him:

 

If your pastor does not teach the truth of Bible prophecy, you ought to find a church that does.