March 08, 2017 The Seeker-Friendly, Purpose-Driven Cornucopia of False Doctrine

A Blog by Steven Kozar

“For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.”
— 2 Timothy 4:3-4
March 08, 2017
The Seeker-Friendly, Purpose-Driven Cornucopia of False Doctrine

The “attractional” church model is so common that it’s practically the norm; most Christians have assumed that it is the only valid way to “do church” nowadays, or they don’t even know that other legitimate options exist. What is it? Simply put, this model of church starts with the idea that “normal” church is unattractive and can’t bring in new people, so exciting new ideas must be implemented in order to get people in the door. Once people show up for the attractive and entertaining aspects, they’ll eventually hear a gospel message and they’ll “accept Jesus in their hearts” (or something to that effect).
This philosophy makes a number of assertions and assumptions right from the start:
The needs and sensibilities of the unbeliever should determine the strategy of the church.
All of the churches in history (up till now) were doing it wrong: too old-fashioned, too boring, too stiff, too negative, too much doctrine, too ritualistic, etc.
People would be glad to go to church, but it’s just too “churchy.” All we need to do is tone down all the religious stuff, make it fun and “relevant” and people will show up.
A church should focus on meeting people’s needs through “life skills,” “success,” “psychological therapy” and “leadership” training, and it should help it’s members become “purpose-driven” people who can “accomplish their destiny.” A church doesn’t need to preach repentance and the forgiveness of sins anymore; or if it does, it must radically alter the language to appease unbelievers.

Numerical growth is proof of God’s blessing; lack of numerical growth is proof that God is not involved.
In order to build the church, God needs “vision-casting” pastors, and these pastors must then command their followers to do the work required by the “vision” that God gave them.

Robert Schuller (1926-2015) is probably the man most responsible for establishing the Attractional, Seeker-Friendly, Purpose-Driven church model; although a case could be made that Henry Emerson Fosdick (1878-1969) really laid the foundation. Schuller removed many of the “negative” aspects of Christianity like Christ dying on the cross to atone for our sin, hell, God’s anger and God’s wrath; and replaced it with the Positive Thinking philosophy he borrowed directly from his mentor, Norman Vincent Peale (1898-1993). Here’s an article with more detail: Robert Schuller and The Seeker Sensitive Church-The Roots and Fruits of Robert Schuller’s Version of Theological Liberalism by Bob DeWaay
At a very fundamental level, Schuller believed that because modern people didn’t care about their eternal salvation anymore, the church should reach them by appealing to the things that did matter to them; things like their self-esteem and their earthly success and happiness.
“The church must develop a theology for mission. I don’t think it’s done that. I accept John 3:16 as a good one if people have a fear of hell. Maybe they have, but I find a lot of secular people haven’t. At what point can I find a button to push so that I can reach them? I think their desire for self-esteem is that button.”
— Robert Schuller interviewed in Christianity Today, Aug. 10,1984
“I don’t think anything has been done in the name of Christ and under the banner of Christianity that has proven more destructive to human personality and hence counterproductive to the evangelistic enterprise than the unchristian, uncouth strategy of attempting to make people aware of their lost and sinful condition.”
— Robert Schuller “Dr. Schuller Comments,” (letter to the editor), Christianity Today, October 5, 1984, pp. 12-13

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A New Reformation? The Christian Research Institute Examines the Theology of Robert Schuller
After Schuller established the Crystal Cathedral and his T.V. Show “The Hour of Power” there were two young pastors who took his ideas and implemented them on an even larger scale: Bill Hybels and Rick Warren. Both of these men learned about growing a church directly from Schuller when they were starting their new churches. Although Schuller was often viewed with skepticism by many Evangelicals (because he had so clearly altered and reduced the Gospel message), both Hybels and Warren have maintained more mainstream reputations as genuine Evangelicals and have escaped much scrutiny. But when examined more carefully, the Mega-Church/Attractional model they brought to full fruition in Willow Creek Church (Hybels) and Saddleback Church (Warren) is not really an orthodox, Biblical Church; it’s a strange hybrid that ends up creating more problems than it solves.
Rick Warren and his wife, Kay, attended Robert Schuller’s “Institute for Church Growth” in 1979 while Warren was in his last year of seminary. In a 2002 interview for Christianity Today Magazine, Kay Warren said this of their visit to the institute: “He (Schuller) had a profound effect on Rick. We were captivated by his positive appeal to non-believers. I never looked back.” (Christianity Today, Nov. 18, 2002) Rick Warren, however, has been strangely silent about the obvious influence that Schuller has had on him.
A big problem with the Mega-Church message is that it’s a watered-down and neutered message. This Christianity is focused on meeting the “felt needs” of people, but the Gospel message is about how Christ gave His life as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. He didn’t die on the cross to give us purpose or make us successful. The true and complete Gospel must be preached so that people can hear the Word of God and can understand the weight of their sin; it’s only from that point that people have the opportunity to repent and have their sins forgiven. In the worse case, “Mega-Church” scenario, the message confuses people into thinking that becoming a Christian is simply “accepting” Jesus so that He can make you more complete, or more satisfied. As an example of this, Rick Warren had a chance to preach a gospel message to a gigantic audience at a TED Talk in 2008, but he choose to preach a feel-good, non-Christian message instead:
“So the good life is not about looking good, feeling good, or having the goods. It’s about being good and doing good. The bottom line is that God gets pleasure watching you be you. Why? He made you. And when you do what you are made to do, He goes, ‘That’s my boy.’ ‘That’s my girl.’ You are using the talent and the ability that God gave you. So my advice to you is look at what is in your hand, your identity, your influence, your income. And say, ‘It’s not about me; it’s about making the world a better place. Thank you.”
— Rick Warren, TED Talk, February, 2006
(Here’s the complete TED Talk given by Rick Warren in February, 2006)

Here’s an example of Andy Stanley freely admitting that he uses “attractional” messages to get people to attend his Mega-Church:
“People are not on a truth quest; they are on a happiness quest. They will continue to attend your church – even if they don’t share your beliefs – as long as they find the content engaging and helpful.”
— Andy Stanley
One of the most striking characteristics of the Attractive, Seeker-Friendly church is the constant emphasis on LEADERSHIP. This is not surprising, since much of the philosophy behind this church model is not based on the Bible-it’s based on business principles. The non-Christian business guru Peter Drucker (1909-2005) has probably had more influence on this idea of church than any single pastor. Read: Peter Drucker’s Mega-Church Legacy. Both Hybels and Warren refer to Drucker as their primary mentor. Here’s a quote from Bill Hybels book “Courageous Leadership” that clearly portrays his near-idolatry of leadership:
“I believe that the great tragedy of the church in our time has been its failure to recognize the importance of the spiritual gift of leadership. It appears to me that only a fraction of pastors worldwide are exercising the spiritual gift of leadership, organizing the church around it, and deploying church members through it. The results, in terms of church growth and worldwide spiritual impact, are staggering.”
— Bill Hybels
The following articles are from various people coming from various theological backgrounds who all agree that the “attractional” “seeker-friendly” “purpose-driven” church model should be reconsidered:
Redefining the Church-The Church Growth Movement’s Unbiblical Definition of the Church by Bob DeWaay
Straight Talk About the Seeker Church Movement by Grace to You Ministries
Schuller Planted, Hybels Watered, Warren (Peter Drucker) Gives The Increase by Orrel Steinkamp
Many Articles about the Unbiblical Nature of the Church Growth Movement by Deception in the Church
The Problems With The Purpose-Driven Definition of a Christ Follower
Why I Left Your Seeker-Friendly Church
The Church Growth Movement: An Analysis of Rick Warren’s “Purpose Driven” Church Growth Strategy by Dennis Castella
Seeker Movement on Critical Issues Commentary Radio (5 different shows)
The Faulty Premises of the Church Growth Movement on Critical Issues Commentary Radio (4 different shows)
Celebrity Pastor is Not a Biblical Church Office by Elliott Nesch
“Church… Business… What’s the Difference?” Confused Willow Creek Leadership Conference by Steven Kozar
Bill Hybels Talks About Popeye (Much) More Than Jesus in the Museum of Idolatry
Bill Hybels: “God Uses a Re-Crafted Schedule to Transform Lives” in the Museum of Idolatry
Resistance is Futile: You Will Be Assimilated Into the Community (Fighting for the Faith with more links)
The Andy Stanley Cornucopia of False Teaching, Fast Talking and Postmodern Ambiguity
Seeker-Sensual Church Growth (Fighting for the Faith Episode with Rosebrough, Kozar and Spreeman)
Purpose Driven Dismantling of Christianity by Marsha West

The following video from our friend Elliot Nesch, is probably the most careful and comprehensive examination of the mega-church model available on the internet. This is three hours of very important material; every Christian should watch this (and then watch it again!):

The following two videos are based on the excellent “White Horse Inn” radio program:

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Cornucopia
Seeker-Friendly, Purpose-Driven, Cornucopia

 

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An Examination of Rick Warren’s Teaching on “Exponential Growth”

Have you ever read or heard from someone who echoed your very words and thoughts?  That is how I felt as I read Brian Jonson’s expose on the error of Rick Warren.  Like Brian, I never finished Warren’s books because they were so theologically unsound.  Like Brian, I too noted Warren’s lack of the mention of the bedrock of our faith – repenting, becoming saved, born again and washed in His blood.  Like Brian, I am fascinated by the fact that the Southern Baptists have never held him accountable.  I could go on and on, but you get the picture.  

In Christ, Pastor Steve

 

 

An Examination of Rick Warren’s Teaching on “Exponential Growth”

by Brian Jonson

 

Rick Warren, pastor of the largest Southern Baptist Church in the world, has become a household name.  Author of the best selling book “Purpose-Driven Life”, he has more exposure both to the unsaved world and church than almost any other Christian author.  Clearly, when he speaks, people listen.  James 3:1 reminds us that teachers are under a different level of scrutiny from God than anyone else.  Tasked with being an evangel of the Good News, a minister must approach his calling with the utmost sobriety and care.  In this brief discussion, I have no intention of calling into question Rick Warren’s motives.  I have no reason to believe that he doesn’t love God, his church and the unsaved.  There is nothing in his life that leads me to believe he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.  However, the Bible encourages us to examine all things as Bereans and be discerning.  No one is above this Biblical examination.  The ends never justify the means when it comes to Christian ministry.

 

The video[1] on exponential growth, presented by Warren, is one of the most shocking teachings I have ever seen emerge from a Southern Baptist.  Our denomination is considered conservative and thoroughly Bible-based.  When a minister in the SBC presents philosophies or doctrines that are contrary to scripture, he must be rebuked.  This is true of the pastor of the smallest congregation as well as the largest.  The fact that Saddleback Church is the largest in our movement makes this action so much more urgent.

 

I am not ashamed to confess that I have never been a fan of The Purpose-Driven Life, Church or associated activities.  I read some of both of these books and, frankly, didn’t need to finish either one.  There are two distinct features present in Warren’s philosophy.  First, he relies on pragmatism and weak doctrine.  Second, he misuses scripture to such a degree that I question whether he had a single course in Biblical hermeneutics.

 

Pragmatism is the practice of relying on methods or techniques rather than our Sovereign Lord for results.  Pragmatism is the notion that meaning or worth is determined by practical consequences. It is the philosophy that looks to the world’s marketing methodologies or poll results rather than Biblical examples or mandates.  When determining how to “run” a church a Bible-based pastor will ask the question “what most honors God or is clearly revealed in Scripture” while the pragmatist will take a survey in the community.  One of Warren’s more famous actions is in the area of music.  He claims he polled the surrounding community and asked what their musical preference was.  After determining the popular consensus, he “got rid of the organ” and set up a rock band.  There is nothing unbiblical about a “rock” band, but making that determination based on a poll of unsaved people is a questionable method at best.  R.C. Sproul put it well when he said this:

 

The only seekers we tend to draw with seeker sensitive services are believers seeking a different church. By presenting a God who wants us to look at ourselves, who doesn’t judge and command, who has a wonderful set of insights on how to have a happy, healthy marriage we put God’s imprimatur on narcissism. There’s nothing evangelicals like more than to be told that God loves them just the way they are.

But why aren’t the seekers coming? They like pop music, so we give them pop music. They like stories so we give them dramas. They like anonymity, so we let them have it. They like convenience, so we’ll change their oil while they’re here (this by the way is being done). The problem is that we can do none of these things as well as the world can. Why get up on a Sunday morning and drive somewhere to listen to pop music, when it’s as close as my stereo? Why settle for cheesy scripts and sets when the television does it so much better? Why spend an hour getting an oil change when the pros can do it in ten minutes?[2]

 

Warren’s weak theology and misuse of scripture is significant and replete throughout his material.  Conspicuously absent in “The Purpose Driven Life” is a clear definition of what it is to be born-again.[3]  There is no question in my mind that this is one of the reasons it remains on the best-seller lists.  Perhaps the following quote is as close as Warren comes to explaining what it is to be redeemed:

 

“God won’t ask about your religious background or doctrinal views. The only thing that will matter is, did you accept what Jesus did for you and did you learn to love and trust him?” (Warren: 34).

 

Really?  If that is true, then the Mormons should take great comfort.  After urging his readers to believe God chose them and receive the Holy Spirit for power to “fulfill your life purpose” (Warren 58), he offers a little prayer that will save people. According to Warren, here is how you are saved: “I invite you to bow your head and quietly whisper the prayer that will change your eternity, ‘Jesus, I believe in you and I receive you.” Then he makes this promise, “If you sincerely meant that prayer congratulations! Welcome to the family of God!” (Warren: 59)

 

Where is the wrath of God against sinners?  Where is the atonement of the blood of Christ?  This is one example of Warren’s weak theology.

 

Regarding his misuse of scripture, consider the following:

 

“The Bible says, ‘Self-help is no help at all. Self-sacrifice is the way, my way, to finding yourself, your true self’” (Warren: 19).

 

The passage he quotes is Matthew 16:25.  The translation (or paraphrase) is from The Message.  The New King James reads “For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.”

 

Clearly, this passage is teaching that we are to consider our lives dead (carry our cross) daily in order to follow Christ.  This passage does not teach anything about self-help or self-esteem.  And yet, Warren makes an odd leap to just that when he says “It is about becoming what God created you to be” (Warren: 19).  This is simply untrue.

 

There are many examples of this type of error in his book.  Warren attended Robert Schuller’s school of church growth.   Schuller’s emphasis on self esteem and pragmatism are very clearly adopted in Warren’s philosophy.  Schuller endorsed “The Purpose Driven Church” in the first few pages.  How Warren could accept the endorsement of a man who has denied sin and completely lost the gospel is beyond me.

 

I would now like to discuss the “Exponential Thinking” video that I mentioned at the beginning.   This video is intended for pastors who are preparing for their “Purpose-Driven” church program.  In this 20 minute presentation, Rick Warren departs from sound hermeneutics over and over again.  From the first few sentences, I could easily have replaced this Southern Baptist with a modern Charismatic and would not have noticed a difference.  There was almost nothing Baptist about his brief discussion.

 

Here are some things Warren said in the first few minutes:

 

“…Most important principal – exponential thinking.”

 

“If you want God to do something really big in your church, you’re going to have to apply the principals of exponential thinking as taught in the Bible.”

 

“The Lord clearly put an idea in my mind…God spoke to me that my faith was not big enough…”you must think exponentially” was the thought that God kept putting in my mind.”

 

Now, my first thought is, “what is exponential thinking?”  He is asserting that it is “the most important principal” and so it is fair to examine this term as he defines it.  Essentially, Warren claims exponential thinking is “adding a zero” to whatever number you have in mind.  Let’s put this in context.  Warren is introducing a church growth strategy and claims this term is the most important principal.  What is the church?  Is the church an organization?  Is it a business?  Is it a non-profit benevolence organization?  Is it a counseling center?  No, the church is the living Body of Christ. It is not an organization; it is an organism.  Christ is the head and He is the responsible for its growth.  Consider Acts 2:46:

 

46 pSo continuing daily with one accord qin the temple, and rbreaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart, 47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And sthe Lord added 8to the church daily those who were being saved.[4]

It seems clear to me that the “most important principal” of church growth is the sovereign oversight of the Lord Jesus Christ.  Warren’s strategy of exponential thinking supplants God’s role as the One Who ultimately grows His church.  No amount of strategies, gimmicks, persuasion or promises will result in true church growth.  Our sovereign Lord is the One responsible for that.

When Warren says “if you want God to do something really big…” then you have to think exponentially.  Also, he says “God spoke to me that my faith wasn’t big enough.”  I have to admit, when I saw him make these statements I instantly thought of the type of false teaching one sees on TBN any given day of the week.  Hebrews 1 says that “God…has in these last days spoken to us through His Son.”  No one hears the audible voice of God.  If Warren meant to say that he felt an impression that his faith wasn’t big enough, then he should be careful to word it that way.  A responsible Pastor shouldn’t be this careless.  Regardless of how it was worded, one must question whether it is a valid statement.  If God is the One who is responsible for growing His church, and no other method is therefore legitimate, then would God chastise Warren for a lack of faith in something he can’t do?  From the very beginning, his premise is faulty.  Nonetheless, he claims God gave Him 10 principles related to exponential growth.  They are:

 

  1. Exponential growth is possible – Gen. 47:27

 

With his first point, Warren begins the train wreck of faulty exegesis.

 

27 So Israel cdwelt in the land of Egypt, in the country of Goshen; and they had possessions there and dgrew and multiplied exceedingly.[5]

 

Somehow, Warren wants to take this passage out of context and attempts to apply it to a specific church growth program promise.  The Genesis passage simply states a fact; the children of Israel multiplied exceedingly, even exponentially.  However, this is directly tied to the fact that God specifically told Abraham that they would!  There is nothing revelatory here.   There is nothing related to Warren’s “40 Days of Purpose” program here.   Surprisingly, he analogously mentions Starbucks and Krispy Kreme as examples of why we should expect our churches to grow exponentially.  Instead of recognizing that the church is not a business, he compares it to two fast-growth companies.  Anyone with a reasonable amount of discernment should see the invalidity of this illustration.

 

  1. Exponential growth is the New Testament model – Acts 6:7

 

7 Then mthe word of God spread, and the number of the disciples multiplied greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many nof the priests were obedient to the faith.[6]

Warren takes a general statement about the Body of Christ and applies it to individual congregations.  Has the church grown exponentially since the book of Acts?  Certainly.  Should we expect that same growth in each congregation?  Nothing says we should.  By God’s Providence, there are Christian churches in nearly every community of America.  Many of these communities are very small.  Some of them are in dying towns.  Is it reasonable for a small, God-honoring church in a small town to experience exponential growth?  I would say no.  Does this mean the pastor’s faith is deficient?  I don’t think so.  Calling exponential growth a New Testament model is only accurate if one refers to the body of Christ as a whole and not individual congregations.

 

  1. Exponential growth brings honor to God – Is. 26:15

 

15 Thou hast increased the nation, O LORD, thou hast increased the nation: thou art glorified: thou hadst removed it far unto all the ends of the earth.[7]

 

 

This point is almost unnecessary.  No one questions the truth of what is stated here.  The passage in Isaiah is looking toward the prophetic reality that Israel would be increased after their captivity.  God would not forget them and He would restore them and return growth.  God will receive honor for that.  There is no direct application to an individual congregation here.  Worse, he makes the following statement regarding this point:

 

“We limit God when we think of addition instead of multiplication…God wants us to think in exponential terms”

 

He does?  Where does God say that in His Word?  The viewer is asked to accept this statement at face value without any support whatsoever.  Perhaps Warren relies on the fact that he has already indicated that he hears the very voice of God, so how can we question him?  The very suggestion that we “limit God” is blasphemous.  It is an ultimate affront to a Sovereign God to suggest that our actions, or inactions, somehow deny Him the ability to accomplish His purposes.  There is very, very bad theology here and I am afraid most viewers won’t even notice it.

 

  1. Exponential growth captures the attention of the unbelieving world – Ex. 1:12

 

12 But the more they afflicted them, the more they multiplied and grew. And they were grieved because of the children of Israel.[8]

 

Any layman bible student could identify this passage as meaningful only because of its context.  The Egyptian task-masters were laying a heavy burden on the enslaved Hebrews.  Because of the Abrahamic promise of phenomenal growth, the children of Israel continued to magnify in numbers in spite of their maltreatment.  The Egyptians were grieved because they witnessed this fact.  With complete mistreatment of God’s Word, Warren hurls this example into the New Testament age and says this, “Wouldn’t you like people…to be alarmed because your church is growing so fast?”  I don’t understand how Warren can ask this type of question.

 

  1. Exponential growth is caused by God – Deut. 1:10

 

10 The LORD your God has multiplied you, jand here you are today, as the stars of heaven in multitude.[9]

 

This passage is related to Israel, just as was the case in earlier points.  Nonetheless, his statement, “exponential growth is caused by God” is unarguably true.  My question for Warren is this:  If exponential growth is caused by God, then why are you teaching people how to achieve it by using your program?  I truly wonder if Warren is remotely aware of how he contradicts the purpose of his program by acquiescing to God’s sovereignty here.

 

  1. Exponential Growth is the result of God’s blessing on your life – Is. 51:2

 

2 Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him. [10]

 

Warren seems fixated with God’s promise to Abraham to magnify the Israelites, probably because it fits his thesis so well.  This technique, finding isolated or unrelated scriptures that support a particular thesis or position, is becoming more and more common among Southern Baptists.  When a pastor/teacher approaches the Word of God piecemeal instead of verse by verse and in context, he is in danger of serious interpretative errors.  This is a perfect example.  Additionally, the supposition he is making in point six is faulty.  It is a logical “if/then” statement.  If God blesses your life, then you will experience exponential growth.  He is attributing this growth to God’s blessing.  Then, he applies this to each church congregation equally.  As I said earlier, it is unreasonable to expect every local church to grow as Warren expects them to grow.  There are various demographic and certainly spiritual reasons why certain churches will not grow exponentially.  I’ll go so far as to say the Bible indicates growing apostasy in the last days, not a surge in church growth.  If anything, we might expect to see less growth since the Way is narrow.

 

  1. Exponential Growth makes God smile.  He rewards it  – no scripture reference

 

Warren referenced the parable of the talents after presenting this point.  Perhaps the reader has noticed what I noticed – if exponential growth is caused by God (see point 5) and if it brings God honor (point 3), then why is God rewarding man for it?  He is teaching how to cause exponential growth to occur but then says it is all up to God.  After saying it is all up to God he is claiming God will reward us for doing it.  This is contradictory and confusing, at best.

 

  1. The only barrier to exponential growth is our own unbelief – Mark 6:52

 

52 For ythey had not understood about the loaves, because their zheart was hardened.[11]

There is nothing in the above verse that relates to whether or not a local church will experience a specific amount of growth.  Does our lack of faith limit God?  No, certainly not.  Does our lack of faith limit our effectiveness or restrict what God may do through us?  That question deserves careful theological consideration.  On at least one occasion our Lord limited the miracles that he did based on a lack of man’s faith (Mark 6:5, 6).  However we deal with this issue, we can be sure it doesn’t apply as Warren supposes.  God is sovereign over His church; He is the one who causes growth.  Warren is making this a responsibility of man.

 

  1. The secret of exponential growth is believing God for big things – Mat. 9:29; James 5:16

 

29 Then He touched their eyes, saying, “According to your faith let it be to you.”[12]

 

16 1Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. sThe effective, 2fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. [13]

 

Warren’s promise in this point is contingent upon the validity of the concept of “exponential growth.”  As we are discovering, the entire premise is wrong and, therefore, this comment is irrelevant.  The passages he has provided are particularly instructive here.  It is true that our belief in God can/will result in “big things”.  Physical healing as part of Messianic prophecy and having our sins forgiven are essential biblical elements.  Believing God for a local church growth program is something else entirely.

 

  1. Exponential Growth begins with exponential thinking – Is. 4:2,3

 

2 In that day shall the branch of the LORD be beautifula and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel. 3 And it shall come to pass, that he that is left in Zion, and he that remaineth in Jerusalem, shall be called holy, even every one that is written among the living in Jerusalem:[14]

 

I am unable to find the connection between Warren’s tenth point and this passage from Isaiah.

 

When I read a statement like this, I think immediately of Norman Vincent Peale or Robert Schuller.  This type of “change reality with your thoughts” is from the charismatic word faith heresy.  There is no excuse for a Southern Baptist minister to be dabbling in these issues.  Unfortunately, the popularity of his books and programs appear to have numbed the doctrinal discernment of millions of evangelicals.  In my view, a statement such as this should set off red alarms immediately.

 

As if these ten points aren’t enough, Warren then spends a couple of minutes explaining how to utilize exponential thinking.  Here are some quotes:

 

“How do you think exponentially?  You simply put a zero behind the number.”

 

He said God said to him, “you are not thinking big enough – add a zero”.  Instead of 3000, think of 30,000.  He recommends we do this in our events.  “God would have to show up…force us to think in ways we’ve never thought before.”

 

“exponential thinking keeps you from making the mistake of setting up a system that won’t get bigger.”  He said the church is “stuck in a shoe that isn’t able to get any bigger.”  This is due to our faulty thinking.

 

“Pastors and leaders…you are limiting the growth of your church because you haven’t set a goal that forces you to think out of the box and … do things in new ways.”  “We may be limiting God’s will for our churches.” “Faith stretches us…works in the realm of the impossible…whatsoever is not of faith is sin.”

 

Please read these quotes again.  These statements are not being made by an Oral Roberts or Benny Hinn; they are uttered by the pastor of the largest church in the Southern Baptist Convention.  Where is the accountability?  Who is rebuking Warren on his faulty doctrine and man-centered theology?  How does this kind of program enjoy such acceptance?  I believe the answer is pragmatism.  Many pastors are unhappy and even depressed with their smaller congregations.  They feel as if preaching the Word expositionally is not interesting enough.  They see a Rick Warren take off his socks and put on a Hawaiian shirt and think the power of God is behind it.  There is a famine of the Word of God in our land.  There is no famine of mega-churches or Rick Warren’s books.  And, I fear that those who are trying to subsist on a diet of “purpose-driven” philosophy will find their ears tickled and spiritual strength gone.

 

 

[1] http://purposedriven.com/content.aspx?id=4903

[2] R.C. Sproul at http://www.glenwoodhillsbiblechurch.org/article.asp?ID=621&CatName=The%20Church

[3] Having admitted I never finished his book, I nonetheless support this statement based on discussions I’ve had with Christians who have read it and can confirm this point.

p Acts 1:14

q Luke 24:53

r Luke 24:30; Acts 2:42; 20:7; [1 Cor. 10:16]

s Acts 5:14

8 NU omits to the church

[4]The New King James Version. 1996, c1982 . Thomas Nelson: Nashville

c Gen. 47:11

d Gen. 17:6; 26:4; 35:11; 46:3; Ex. 1:7; Deut. 26:5; Acts 7:17

[5]The New King James Version. 1996, c1982 . Thomas Nelson: Nashville

m Acts 12:24; Col. 1:6

n John 12:42

[6]The New King James Version. 1996, c1982 . Thomas Nelson: Nashville

[7]The Holy Bible : King James Version. 1995 . Logos Research Systems, Inc.: Oak Harbor, WA

[8]The Holy Bible : King James Version. 1995 . Logos Research Systems, Inc.: Oak Harbor, WA

j Gen. 15:5; 22:17; Ex. 32:13; Deut. 7:7; 10:22; 26:5; 28:62

[9]The New King James Version. 1996, c1982 . Thomas Nelson: Nashville

[10]The Holy Bible : King James Version. 1995 . Logos Research Systems, Inc.: Oak Harbor, WA

y Matt. 16:9–11; Mark 8:17, 18

z Is. 63:17; Mark 3:5; 16:14

[11]The New King James Version. 1996, c1982 . Thomas Nelson: Nashville

[12]The New King James Version. 1996, c1982 . Thomas Nelson: Nashville

1 NU Therefore confess your sins

s Num. 11:2

2 supplication

[13]The New King James Version. 1996, c1982 . Thomas Nelson: Nashville

a beautiful…: Heb. beauty and glory

[14] The Holy Bible : King James Version. 1995 . Logos Research Systems, Inc.: Oak Harbor, WA

 

 

Two Entire Books Exposing Some Of The Falsehoods Taught By Rick Warren

The following two books were written by James Sunquist, friend of this blog author, and reveal some of the falsehoods in the teachings of Rick Warren:

1)Who’s Driving The Purpose Driven Church?  A Documentary On The Teachings Of Rick Warren

2)Rick Warren’s Global PEACE Plan Vs. Scriptural Teachings On Peace

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Simply key the following link, and then key 1)Who’s Driving The Purpose Driven Church and 2) Rick Warren’s Global Peace Plan  You can read the two books in their entirety:

https://procinwarn.com/james-sundquist/

False Prophet Rick Warren Exposed!

These lengthly videos record many of Rick Warren’s false teachings, including Chrislam, his worldwide P.E.A.C.E. Plan, Catholicism, allegiance with the Pope, Mariolatry, universalism, promotion of the New World Order (NWO), his disparagement of Christian Fundamentalists, easy believism, no repentance required and all inclusive salvation, no mention of sin or condemnation, and much more.  Among the authors on these videos are John MacArthur, Phil Johnson, James Sundquist, Scott Johnson, Gary Gilley and Jack Van Impe.  Rick Warren is a litmus test.  Are you a Berean or a Laodicean?

In Christ, Pastor Steve

Beware Of The False Gospel Of Rick Warren

 

Heretic Rick Warren says active homosexuals are going to Heaven if they “accept Jesus Christ”

 

Rick Warren’s theology would suggest that an active murderer, adulterer, fornicator, sorcerer or homosexual will go to heaven as long as they have “accepted Christ.”  Rick Warren omits the new birth and our new heart.  He avoids the doctrine of repentance like the bubonic plague.  Without repentance, one cannot be saved – Luke 13:3,5 – see this verse below.  His theology is simply a referendum on Biblical illiteracy.

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John 3:3 King James Version (KJV)

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

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Luke 13:3,5  King James Version (KJV)

I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

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2 Corinthians 5:17 King James Version (KJV)

17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

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Galatians 5:19-21 King James Version (KJV)

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

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1 Corinthians 6:9-11  King James Version (KJV)

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

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Revelation 21:8 King James Version (KJV)

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

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Have you ever wondered just how many churches are sending their parishioners to hell since they emulate Rick Warren’s theology?  I mean the Bible is no longer adhered to, studied or believed, and he is considered by many to be “America’s pastor.”  I am truly amazed at the Biblical illiteracy and apathy within the church.  There is the claim that bloggers like myself do not get the facts and run rampant with erroneous conclusions.  This blog site is filled with Warren’s own quotations and theology, and a great deal of the material on him is on You Tube and you can listen for yourself.  All it really takes in order to understand Warren’s apostasy is to be saved yourself, and be a noble Berean, utilizing careful exegesis and study of the scriptures.  But then again, even a baby Christian should understand that an active and unrepentant sodomite is not headed for the gates of heaven.  The annihilation of Sodom and Gomorrah is a barometer of the fate of those who actively engage in this deplorable and wicked lifestyle.

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Here are scripture passages that address the false prophets like Rick Warren, who suggest that since we are saved by grace, we can freely live in sin:

Romans 6 King James Version (KJV)

What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.

20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

King James Version (KJV)Public Domain

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Jude 4  King James Version (KJV)

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

God’s grace has never been a “license” to sin.  When one is truly born from above, their spirit no longer desires for sin to be in their life.

Pastor Steve

Rick Warren Speaks On Christian Fundamentalism

Rick Warren is a man whose teachings take a long time to unravel.  This blog site is filled with a great deal of his apostasy.  Many articles that highlight just a few of his heretical teachings can be found in the category – “Emerging Church.”

This article emphasizes the fact the Rick Warren disparages the Christian Fundamentalists, even comparing them to radical Muslim fundamentalists!  Rick, by the way, envisions himself in charge of the “New Reformation,” which emphasizes deeds and not creeds.  Even though most Christians sense that apocalyptic end time events are soon coming to our fallen world, Rick is going to implement his world P.E.A.C.E. plan.  Never mentioned in his teachings, is the Rapture of the Church, Great Tribulation, Second Coming and Millenium.  Brother Rick has a better idea. Those nasty Biblical doctrines like sin, repentance, and the atoning blood, all bother brother Rick, so he has found that the Purpose Driven Church/Life books, are much handier and easier to believe than those old fashioned and archaic Bibles.  When he does quote the scriptures, he cherry picks only the non offensive passages, and uses whatever translation he can find, that would best convey his intended message.  He blasts born again believers for following the entire list of fundamentals.  According to Rick Warren, fundamentalists not only are legalistic and narrow minded but they are also one of the big enemies and are motivated by fear.  The fundamentals that are very near and dear to me, and the bedrock of my faith, are despised by Rick Warren.  Oh yes, here are the five fundamentals that Rick seems to think only legalistic Christians adhere to:

1)The Deity of Christ.

2)The Virgin Birth.

3)The Blood Atonement.

4)The Bodily Resurrection And Second Coming.

5)The Inerrancy of the Scriptures Themselves. 

 

No, you are right – you cannot make this stuff up.  By the time Rick Warren strips the Gospel of the above fundamentals, the teachings of eschatology, the need to repent, the heavy cost of sin, and the reality of hell, the only “gospel” left would be a generic, down sized one size fits all theology that would offend no one.  The “Jesus” of Rick Warren can be found in any religion – Buddhism, Islam, Hindu, etc.  Rick Warren is a universalist who does not believe in the narrow way.

Matthew 7:13-14  King James Version (KJV)

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

 

 Sometimes his real theology comes out when he makes statements in public, such as telling Muslims:  “What is the matter?  We both believe in the same God.”  Yes, those Freudian Slips are momentary lapses when the truth comes out.  Below are a couple of the many, many articles that highlight Rick Warren’s stance on Christian Fundamentalism.  In His Service, Pastor Steve

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Rick Warren is a Southern Baptist pastor that has had a vast influence in Baptist churches. His Saddleback Church averages over 20,000 people a week. His book The Purpose Drive Life has sold over more than 30 million copies. Even John Piper has praised his theology. Rick Warren is not a leader that Baptist churches should be following. In this post we’ll just scratch the surface on the dangers of following Rick Warren.

Rick Warren has a great distaste for fundamentalists such as myself. Rick Warren says:
“Now the word “fundamentalist” actually comes from a document in the 1920s called the Five Fundamentals of the Faith. And it is a very legalistic, narrow view of Christianity, and when I say there are very few fundamentalists, I mean in the sense that they are all actually called fundamentalist churches, and those would be quite small. There are no large ones.” (The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, Event Transcript, Myths of the Modern Mega-Church, Monday, May 23, 2005)
So if you follow the Five Fundamentals of the Faith you are legalistic and narrow minded. Warren also predicts that fundamentalism, of all varieties, will be “one of the big enemies of the 21st century.” “Muslim fundamentalism, Christian fundamentalism, Jewish fundamentalism, secular fundamentalism – they’re all motivated by fear. Fear of each other.” (Philadelphia Inquirer, The purpose-driven pastor, Paul Nussbaum, Jan. 08, 2006)

So according to Rick Warren fundamentalists not only are legalistic and narrow minded but they are also one of the big enemies and are motivated by fear. They are no different than Muslim fundamentalists according to Warren. Just so we understand who Rick is talking about let us look at the Five Fundamentals of the Faith.

1. The Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ (John 1:1; John 20:28; Hebrews 1:8-9).

2. The Virgin Birth (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23; Luke 1:27).

3. The Blood Atonement (Acts 20:28; Romans 3:25, 5:9; Ephesians 1:7; Hebrews 9:12-14).

4. The Bodily Resurrection (Luke 24:36-46; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, 15:14-15).

5. The inerrancy of the scriptures themselves (Psalms 12:6-7; Romans 15:4; 2 Timothy 3:16-17; 2 Peter 1:20).

I would say any born again believer would follow this entire list. So in essence Rick Warren is blasting born again believers which makes you wonder where he stands with God on a personal basis.

With Rick Warren’s poor grasp of the gospel it is of no surprise that he would sign the Yale Center for Faith and Culture covenant A Common Word Between Us and You. The document states things such as “That this common ground consists in love of God and of neighbor gives hope that deep cooperation between us can be a hallmark of the relations between our two communities.” Muslims don’t worship the same God as Christians (John 14:6). To them Jesus was just another prophet and to consider Jesus as God is blaspheme (Surah 4:171 and Surah 5:731). Another thing the document states is “That so much common ground exists – common ground in some of the fundamentals of faith – gives hope that undeniable differences and even the very real external pressures that bear down upon us can not overshadow the common ground upon which we stand together.” It is ironic that Warren blasts the true fundamentals of Christianity and instead signs on to something like this.

Rick Warren also is in the habit of letting wolves into his church (Matthew 7:15). In 2011 Warren brought in doctors like Mark Hymand and Mehmet Oz into church for his Daniel Plan. His Daniel Plan is to help with the health and wellness of people. If you look though at these doctors it certainly won’t help with the spiritual health and wellness of people.

One of the doctors Warren brought into his church, Mehmet Oz, was voted as one of the 500 most influential Muslims. Oz supports what is called integrative medicine which is combining conventional medial treatments with things like hypnosis and energy healing. His wife is a master of Reiki which is a form of energy healing. Another doctor, Mark Hyman, isn’t any better. He promotes new age medicine and false religious leaders such as the Dalai Lama.

As I said before this just scratches the surface of the dangers of following Rick Warren. We all need to prove all things and hold fast that which is good (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Like the Bereans we need to search the scriptures daily to see what we are being taught is true (Acts 17:11).

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RICK WARREN SAYS CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISM WILL BE ONE OF THE GREAT ENEMIES OF THE 21ST CENTURY

Friday Church News Notes, January 20, 2006 (David Cloud, http://www.wayoflife.org fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143

Rick Warren of Purpose Driven Life fame says that Christian fundamentalism will be “one of the big enemies of the 21st century.” He lumped Christian fundamentalism in with “Muslim fundamentalism” and “secular fundamentalism” (“The Purpose-Driven Pastor,” The Philadelphia Inquirer, Jan. 8, 2006). Thus the Christian fundamentalist who merely seeks to take God’s Word seriously and to live it and to preach it faithfully before his Heavenly Master is as dangerous to this world as a Muslim terrorist or a radical atheist. Warren said that Christian fundamentalism is motivated by fear. One of the many great problems with this statement is that the Bible often speaks of fear in a positive manner. Paul was afraid that the devil would deceive the believers through false gospels, false christs, and false spirits (2 Cor. 11:1-4). We should therefore follow the apostle’s example and fear spiritual deception, both for ourselves and for others. The Bible says pastors who sin should be rebuked before all “that others also may fear” (1 Tim. 5:20). Would that Saddleback Church would take that verse seriously and rebuke their heresy-preaching pastor publicly! Noah is commended because he feared at God’s warning (Heb. 11:7). We are to pass this earthly sojourn with fear (1 Pet. 1:17). We are to save some by fear (Jude 23). May God’s men today fear God enough to obey His Word and to preach the whole counsel of God, to “reprove, rebuke, exhort,” to warn the people of false teachers like Rick Warren. Where, by the way, are the “staunch conservative” or “nearly fundamentalist” Southern Baptist leaders who are exposing their fellow Southern Baptist Rick Warren’s errors? They ridicule men like me for warning about errors within the Southern Baptist Convention, but they don’t lift a voice on their own. Well, I think I will just keep on warning!

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APOSTATE PASTOR RICK WARREN AND ELTON JOHN HOLD HANDS IN CONGRESS, JOKE ABOUT KISSING EACH OTHER

Laodicean church pastor Rick Warren appeared in Congress with pop icon and outspoken homosexual Elton John on Wednesday to ask for more money for AIDS research. …

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Rick Warren and Elton John holding hands, joking that if they kissed, it would be the kiss heard around the world.  Do you think Rick Warren warned one of the world’s most famous homosexuals about the sin of sodomy?  No, that would be legalistic and judgmental.  Rick does not approve of those nasty, narrow minded and bigoted Christian Fundamentalists.  They were on a joint venture fighting AIDS together.

Southwest Radio Ministries Expose Rick Warren

Rick Warren’s Religion of the Anti-christ

Rick Warren has been exposed at every prophecy conference that I have attended.  All of the speakers see gross errors in his theology.  Rick Warren encourages Christians NOT to study prophecy because God did not intend for us to understand these things.  As you can see below, Rick’s time is spent, attempting to bring in the millenium himself, as he reveals his New World Order (NWO) colors through hobnobbing with secular, political and religious globalists from all over the world.  Christians identify the NWO with the Tribulation Period and the reign of the Antichrist.  Rick Warren endorses and is part of the NWO.  His paganism is revealed for all with eyes to see, and the following is yet another slice of his arsenic laden pie.  Warren has removed all doubt about his beliefs from any spiritually discerning Christian who truly examines him:

 

If your pastor does not teach the truth of Bible prophecy, you ought to find a church that does.

Title: Rick Warren Leading Evangelicals Into The Prophesied Global Ecumenical Religion!

Satan is to be feared as a serpent, more feared as a devouring lion, but most feared as an angel of light.  Satan is the great deceiver, hence his false teachings will mimic and resemble the truth, yet not measure up.  Rick Warren homogenizes other religions with Christianity, drastically lowers the bar for salvation, and totally omits key doctrine such as repentance (without which one can be saved), Bible prophecy, hell, judgment, God’s wrath, conviction over sin, the abomination of sodomy, etc., etc., etc.  Any discerning Christian who knows the Bible and is truly saved, instantly recognizes the counterfeit message, easy believism, and watered down, feel good “gospel.”  The masses follow him like the Pied Piper.  Have you ever really wondered why Barack Hussein Obama selected Rick Warren for his first inaugural message and prayer?  Warren was the perfect fit for Obama’s purposes.   …and look what Obama turned out to be! 

Key the following link:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n2311.cfm

2015 Second Orlando Prophecy Summit, Part 33

Billy Crone    ~    The Vatican & The Last Days Deception

Billy Crone is senior pastor of Sunrise Baptist Church in Las Vegas, Nevada.

The Vatican is leading our planet into one of the greatest periods  of deception in the history of mankind.  Christians should not be surprised because Jesus warned us.  Matthew 24 covers this theme.  Jesus’ first warning in this chapter is:  “Watch out that no one deceives you.  Many would come in My name and claim that I am the Christ.  Many will be deceived.  If it were possible, they would deceive even the very elect.”  The characteristic of this time is it is a period of great massive deceit.

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Deceptions From The Vatican:

1)Visions of Mary           There are apparitions of the Virgin Mary all over the planet.  Thousands of people claim to see the glowing Virgin Mary, hear her voice, they experience healing from Mary, and claim that the “Queen of Heaven” transcends human description.  II Corinthians 11:14  “Even Satan can transform himself into an angel of light.”  These sightings are demonic.  Mary claims to be the intermediary between man and God.  (I Timothy 2:5)  Mary claims to be the Advocate, sent to the world by the Father and the Son.  Jesus is our Advocate.  (I John 2:1)  Mary claims she came to save the world, yet John 3:16 plainly refutes this.  Mary claims she can save us from the wrath to come.  Jesus saves us, not Mary.  (I Thessalonians 5:9)  Mary claims she is the ark of peace, salvation, and entering heaven.  John 14:6 refutes this apostasy.  People who are Biblically illiterate fall for this apostasy.  These apparitions are not Mary, they are demons, false signs and wonders.  Jesus warned us about false Christs, saying many would come in my name.

2)Visions of UFOs        They are demons, and once again they are supported by the Vatican.  The Vatican is searching for ETs and alien life.  The Vatican Observatory Research Group (VORG) heads these operations.  They are searching for ETs with the most powerful telescopes in the world.  Why is the Vatican searching for ETs?  They believe aliens are going to be our new saviors and messiahs who will save our planet from the calamities to come!  The Vatican believes that ETs have not fallen into sin, and we must listen to them and not the Bible.  The Gospel will have to be thrown out.  Catholic priests say they will baptize aliens, because no matter how many tentacles they have, they still have a soul.  They claim the aliens are the Biblical angels, and that we fell but they did not.  Pope Francis said that he too would baptize an alien.  The Vatican is claiming Jesus was an alien, and that the virgin birth was part of an abduction.  Jesus was a “star child.”  More people in America today believe in aliens than they do in God!  Read Matthew 24:4-5.  Pope Francis, the Vatican and Catholicism are ready to receive the aliens.  This is all happening today.  These lies would deceive the entire planet and explain away the rapture of the church just like that!  What happened to those people?  They were taken away temporarily by aliens, and will be prepared for the utopia that is coming to the earth, and will rejoin us later.

3)Visions of One Religion            Revelation 13:3,4,8-9  “The whole world was astonished and followed the beast…”  They worshipped the dragon/beast.  He suffers an apparently fatal head wound and comes back to life.  The Antichrist will rule, and the False Prophet will point people towards him.  The Vatican has been promoting this for a long time.  Pope John Paul II has long been trying to unite all of the world’s religions under one leadership.  They include Buddhists, Hindus, Snake Worshippers, Muslims, Witch Doctors, etc., who all gathered at the Vatican.  The pope said they were all praying to the same god!  This spiritual fornication is coming from the Vatican.  Pope Francis is planting olive trees in Jerusalem with the world’s religious leaders.  The leaders are now calling for a united nations of religions.  They want a global headquarters to control the religions.  Pope Francis said unrepentant atheists and homosexuals can go to heaven.  Read I Corinthians 6:9-11.  The Vatican is promoting this one world religion.  The Protestant Church in masse, is going back under the umbrella of Rome.  Ken Copeland is an example.  He is a false teacher and a Word of Faith heretic.  He piped in a message from the pope into his Protestant Church.  One of the Catholic messages is that “Luther’s protest is over and we are all Catholics.”  This is how far it has progressed and it has never been here before since the Reformation, when men and women were murdered, beaten, strangled, drowned and burned at the stake, just to give us a copy of the Bible.  There are many Charismatics with the pope as well.  Rick Warren, however, is the poster boy for evangelical protestants aligning with popery.  Warren calls Pope Francis “…our new pope.”  The Vatican sent a delegation to Saddleback Church.  Warren gushes over Pope Francis’ good deeds.  Rick Warren shares how he loves the Catholic television stations, and talks about “The Chaplet of Divine Mercy, mother Angelica and us Christians.”  Rick relaxes and listens to “Hail Mary, full of grace, mother of God.”

Luke 21:28  “When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

 

Behold, I am coming quickly.

–Jesus Christ

 

Are You Ready?

 

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